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Source: The Highwire with Del Bigtree

NZ MAN FACING JAIL TIME FOR PEACEFUL PROTEST

May 8, 2023 · 21m 26s

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This next story comes out of New Zealand. Imagine if you were freed from fighter just like Dell Beatrice who stood on the capital steps of Mississippi, fighting this issue year after year with all of these mothers and a few fathers, trying to get back your own rights and maintain that sort of connection you have to your own body autonomy. That's all that was happening here, but

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there's been documentaries about him. They're attacking him and now he's facing jail time. I'm talking about Billy T. Cahica and this is just a short piece of a documentary gives you a sense of how the media wants to portray this story. You may or may not have witnessed the phenomenon that is Billy T'Cahica, Jr. Leader of the New Zealand Public Party. Co-leader with Jamie Lee Ross

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of Advanced New Zealand. And basically though far too much, McDed my hand is there to help my babies get in there by the way that I have to say that together. Kke and Rob McNeil have non billion children with different animals. All voices here can be spoken per HiNins unbelievable as best I can ever Poly injuries learned at counselor I know who you are one of

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the best. preservationers in the world, y'know what I mean. Who is teaching your story? I am an ordinary moly Kiwi New Zealander and I woke up to a very early on that something did not smell right. To support his key political plan that the government does not tell the truth, he does. We know we are thinking logically. What we said early on that the media claimed

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on the conspiracy conspiracy theorist is now mainstream. What he says stems directly from QAnon, the unfounded conspiracy theory that began in the US in 2017 and is now sweeping the globe, at its core that there's an elite kebar which covertly controls the world. And it's morphing to include anti-5G anti lockdown thinking that coronavirus is a hoax or no worse than the seasonal flu. Belitika Higa and

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his false vacations might not matter if nobody was listening, but they are. We are your party, advantageous Zealander, your voice, your tone, your party. His rallies are full but it's when you analyze his social media that you really get a sense of his influence. In the past two months there's a lot of people who are not aware of it. The Facebook party page has had nearly

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800,000 interactions and this is the really telling part, nearly 4 million video views. Way higher than either Labour or National. What's in it for him? He's speaking what we've been thinking right along. He's an honest man. What he's saying is, it sounds more true. Is the only one speaking the truth? Is the only one confronting the government? Is the only one calling all these f***ed up?

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You know what I think about these draconian measures that Billy was fighting against, I too was fighting standing front of crowds just like that. You think about what's happened with this conversation. All of the authoritarians, there's so many of them have lost their jobs. His New Zealand just sent to Arden, lost her job. She had to step down under just massive hatred from the country for

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her authoritarian measures and other things. He looked at Boris Johnson who was doing the same thing in the UK. He's no longer there. Andrew Cuomo was taken out. He decided instead of being attacked for killing people in nursing homes, he'd rather be accused of sexual misconduct. And of course, Laurie Lightfoot just lost her standing there in Chicago. But although all that changes happening, there's these repercussions

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of things that happen to normal people. And in this case, retro-specatively, and just now the court case came up for Billy Takeahika, this is the headline that we're now seeing in New Zealand conspiracy theories. Billy Takeahika, jailed for COVID-19 protest. He's on appeal at the moment. Judge Peter Winter sent us to Takeahika to four months in imprisonment. This is the moment he was arrested. We have

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the event he was at and this is just some of the personal footage that was provided to show this horrific and stupid moment in New Zealand. We call everybody. We do this, it's coming. And I hope that he's not going to want to please email people back there and tell them not to be violent. I've got to do the right thing. I mean, amazing. It just

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shows the character that in the moment of being arrested, the only thing he's concerned with is making sure that those around him do not. And then we call into violence that that's exactly what they want, thinking about the protection of the police officers. I mean, truly a beautiful and noble spirit. You can see it there. And it's my honor and pleasure to be joined right now

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by Billy Takeahika. Thank you so much for taking the time. This is a horrific outcome at the moment. So, you know, what went down this court case? Was the judge just sort of totally against you from the beginning? Or, you know, what are we talking about here? Yes. Kia ora, greetings. So, I'm going to be here today. Yes, it's quite funny. You know, one of the

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things that we just heard in the mainstream media slander attack on me is that they were saying that I was putting forceifications, including the COVID-19 SARS-2, who was the equivalent of a flu virus. Well, you'd be pleased to know that three days ago in mainstream media in New Zealand came out that a leading university epidemiologist was covered in a very, very significant article saying, well, guess

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what? It's time to move on. COVID-19 is the same as the seasonal flu for most New Zealanders, which is what we're saying back in 2020. You know, it was very, very clear to you, Dell, you know, you and I and Dr. Roshabita spoke about this 18 months ago. Yeah. And so the IFR was very, very clear, the infection fatality rate that we were dealing with in

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influenza equivalent mortality rate here. And it's out now. The narrative is crumbling. But unfortunately, the judge that we had during this trial, which involved three district court appearances with myself turning up the face, these charges for reaching the COVID-19 public health response act 2020, it became very, very clear that the judge that we were dealing with was a true believer of the government narrative of the

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narrative. And I think that the judge was very clear about the fact that he had no science behind it, had no justification behind it, and had no logical sense behind it. He was a complete believer. You know, I don't like to disrespect anyone in the judiciary. I'm a former member of the Army in place. And but he would not entertain any of the improved and up-to-date

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current information, which tells us that lockdowns offered no benefit, but only harm and destruction, which is the whole reason why I protested that day. I became the target of the COVID-19 public health response act. And I had a chance to live from New Zealand now, and I heard all the stories of suicide, of people dying alone, of economic business, destruction, but social harm, social unease and

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disease, was just through the roof like it had been in other countries. And I had to stand up against it, not thinking I would be arrested. But not only that, not only thinking I wouldn't be arrested, but found guilty of the charges. Now in New Zealand, the right to protest is guaranteed under the New Zealand Bill of Rights. I'm not saying that. I was just about

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to ask you that. What is the actual charge? Like what are you being charged with? So the charges on facing will have faced include attending a protest and organizing a protest. Now the protest itself was very, very tiny, less than 100 people. It was outdoors. It was a very nice day. It was peaceful as anything, because all of my events have been peaceful. All of them

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have been beautiful events. I was very, very closely with the police to make sure that protest is police and public are safe, which I did at every event I did, and yet that meant nothing on the day. They had made up the mind they were going to get me that day. It was day one of a national lockdown, because of one case of COVID, one case

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of the flu equivalent. And they had made them wind up. They were going to get me that day. And they did. And normally with breaches like this, you'd be sort of protested and processed. But they kept me in New Zealand's largest prison, reminds me to for about for a day and a half in the place to not want to let me go. They considered me a

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public enemy. Wow. And yet you're peaceful. You're just there. Speak your mind, stating science. And so you're saying the judge wouldn't even allow the science really into the courtroom to discuss what we now know retrospectively, almost like you're being tried based on what was understood in the dark ages versus what we now know. And so that is the reason why I think that it's been the

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light is shining down on it. I mean, this makes me nervous too. And for those, obviously we're an international show. Here in America, my concern is we feel like, oh, this could never happen here. But we are so close. I mean, our neighbors in Canada, we watch bank accounts being shut down by people that were supporting truckers. I mean, it's not lost on anybody. What is

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your message right now to other freedom fighters around the world? I mean, obviously it's so clear they're making an example of you. So that is what this is about to deter anyone from ever thinking they can stand in front of an audience and defy mandates by the government. Yeah, correct. So it creates a chilling effect across the citizenry that may be interested in protest activism. And

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what it does now, it's communicating to New Zealanders that if you say something that the that the government doesn't like that you may be victimizing this way, you know, Dell a few months early. And there in New Zealand during another lockdown, Black Lives Matter had a had two gigantic protests each with 10,000 people at it. No masks, no social distancing, breaching a level two lockdown. And

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there was not one arrest. Now that proves to me that we've got an ideological warfare going on here. And unfortunately, the government which controls the judiciary and they do control the judiciary in my view, we'll make war against you. If you can, we'll make war against you. And you're saying things that they don't like, but if you sort of are working within the safe parameters of

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the work cancel culture of the left, there's going to be perfectly fine to breach all day long. The message to other freedom fighters around the world is is deal up. You know, take a robust approach to this. Be careful because, you know, what I'm dealing with now is I found guilty for breaching this act. Then you sell a bit of rights act 1990. Guarantee. I'm not

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saying that these more right to protest, peacefully protest in any situation, but that was that was overridden, which is unbelievable. And given that I have no previous convictions, I have a long service record to country and community, I'm a pastor, a family man, I've done many, many, many, many big campaigns about helping New Zealand be a better place to live in. The judge read all this

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out and said I had a significant number of excellent character references that I tested to my good character. And then he sentenced me to five months' prison, which if you had been there, the feeling that we through the courtroom was one of shock, absolute shock and horror. Even with the police staff, they were shocked. They were absolutely shocked. They were absolutely shocked. How do we help

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out? I mean, as you know, we got this audience of millions of people watching right now. Is there any way we can put some pressure or help? I know you're sort of bringing this up on appeal. Is this something we can do to get involved? Because this is just a crime against humanity. And if we allow it to happen to you, then you're just the beginning.

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And it starts happening all over the world. So what can we do to help you out? Thank you, Dale. That's really important. Well, we're doing a couple of things right now. Number one is that we have a petition on change.org. It's called Justice for, there we go, for Billy T. K. and Benny Eastwood. Now, Benny Eastwood is my dear friend. Who was arrested with me. And

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we launched this just a few days ago. So the petition is growing. So we'd like people to recognize that what's happening with me just makes no sense. Dale, in the last two weeks, we've had killers. We've had people charge with manslaughter. Gang members involved in drive-by shootings, child malisters, receive home detention. That the community has been being charged. I mean, really, I should have been found

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innocent, charges dismissed, but he didn't. And so he found me guilty, he sentenced me to prison, but he could have easily have just convicted me and given me a fine. Let me go and we move on with life. But he hasn't. And my key concern is that we've got this appeal underway now. My key concern is if they get me in prison, that they may try

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and have their way with me inside. Now, I just a bit of vomit when I say that, not out of fear, but to say that that's possible in New Zealand. We used to be the flagship country for freedom and critical thinking people and good people in a good country. But that's been absolutely eradicated and destroyed in the last six years. And I was listening to what

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you're saying earlier in your interview with Steven. I mean, everything that's happening in the United States around conflicts of interest with drug companies. It's here. We've got the same problem. We've got government doctors and scientists that are putting out this flyers about vaccine hesitancy and overcoming it. Saying it's an independent paper. And on the bottom of it, it's got probably sponsored by Pfizer and GSK. But

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it's rolled out into the enforcement area as well. So in terms of helping me, if people could go to that website. You know, get out your pens, get out your papers. This is what we do here at the high wire. I don't want you to just sit around. Look how easy it is. Why don't we just fill out this petition right now? There's 5,000 signatures. We

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can do way better than that. You're looking for 7,500. I want to blow this out of the park. Let's go ahead and just, you know, hit it up here so that he can walk in and say, look at the world is watching. And that's all that petition like this does. Is you walking the courtroom and say, just want you to know the world is watching how

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you act here. And you will go down in history about how you decide this case. Let's make sure they're being watched. And as you're going through all this, my understanding is you're also working on a documentary. Yes, Del. And boy, I tell you what, this is funny. How God works because you've been on my list. Cause we got, I've got, I've got Russia on board and

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Russians are good friends of ours. And I've got a great, great doctor done a lot of great work out there. Yeah. It's great. But we've got a documentary. It's called the River of Lies, the New Zealand Scandemic. And obviously gave a documentary. And it's a boomer. We've filmed 1,800 minutes of interviews, data, scientists, interviews, including, you know, Dr. Mike Gerden, another great medical leaders and sovereign

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medical activists. But we've got the stories of people that have been harmed for no good reason. One of my dear friends is wife died after receiving the second jab. And they did it because they needed their jobs as we, they're going to get the job or lazy job and lazy, you lose your home. And that's the reason why many people got the jab. But this documentary,

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it's, it's an absolute bomber. You know, is available now? Did I miss me? Are you, is it, can we watch it now? Are you, are you still finishing it up? We're still editing it. So I want to, I want to interview you. In the next week or two to get you, you would be the very, very last guy we're going to interview. But it's been edited

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right now. We, we had planned originally, it was going to be a one episode documentary. But we had a production meeting a couple of weeks ago. And it was decided that no, we've got too much good data here. It'd be a shame to waste any of it. So we're going to have a three episode documentary. But the thing is, I want to, I want to impress

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upon the, what your audience tell is that what's happened in New Zealand is a, is a, is a representation of what the globe has gone through, what we've all gone through. And so the data that we've got in it is something that anybody around the world can use to educate people that are perhaps sitting on the fence, not sure or not even on the fence and

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on the other side of it. Because what, what the way that I crafted the documentary is that we don't want to go down any rabbit holes. We don't want to be, you know, called conspiracy nut jobs. We just wanted to fix Jack. And we wanted to become cool and collected in the way that it's going to be. So we didn't want to, you know, I mean,

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I get caught a Q and on guy. I've never had anything to do with Q and on. I get caught a, a drum guy. I've never had anything to do with, with, with President Trump either. But we just want to be very, very calm, very centered in the way that we present the evidence and the facts. And such a good layout that anybody will be able

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to go, well, to a family member that they lost, you know, because they spoke up, say, look, mum, dad, sister, brother, cousin, just to just look at this, just look at this and then make up your mind. Because the world has to make a choice to Dell is that as the narrative is crumbling and breaking down, you know, all those that slam G was a conspiracy

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nut job, slam B is a conspiracy nut job. Now, if they come to terms that they're wrong, they're completely wrong. And the way that we that we get them over that line completely is to is to very warmly but factually and firmly present the data that cannot be fact checked and in the other way was. Well, what I really look forward to in your documentary and

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though, you know, there's many out there now, but what is so interesting about New Zealand is you truly are an experiment. We've talked a lot about Australia, but when you look at islands, your lockdown was so complete that you're really one of the only experiments that got to vaccinate everybody, but for the virus was actually there. So if the vaccine was ever going to work, it

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should have worked in New Zealand and the fact that it has it and you had the same infections rates, they skyrocketed through the roof. You've had massive death that the vaccine didn't seem to help from and you've same stupidity in hospitals, you know, putting people on ventilators. I mean, all the same things, but it was done in a microcosm in a much more contained space. So

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it gets outside of the argument, well, we were already under attack by the virus. We didn't know what's happening. New Zealand sat back and was able to hide itself and really make a calculated effort based on what the WHO and the CDC and the FDA said if we could only do this, it would have worked great. It was a disaster. New Zealand has been a disaster

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for your economy. It's been a disaster for your society. Now they're going to try and scare anyone from telling the truth. The next time they pull this by, you know, throwing you in jail, we're going to do everything we can to support you. So if you want to get involved with the documentary, here's that information again, River of Lies and New Zealand's Scandemic River of Lies.co.nz.

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And please let's sign that change dot org petition and support Billy here. He is standing up right now as a warrior for the world, a warrior for all of us. We cannot allow this type of insanity to stand. Billy, thank you for taking the time. Thank you for your courage. And honestly, thank you for your peace and your candor and that truly beautiful loving vibe you're

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putting out. Love is the only way we win this. And you really are representing that such a beautiful way. Thank you, Dale. Look forward to speaking to you for the documentary. And just want to wish everybody to be in God's care. Thanks brother. Appreciate it. Thank you. Take care. Thank you.

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