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HAS TRANS MOVEMENT GONE TOO FAR?

May 13, 2023 · 16m 20s

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We just came from a largely polarizing debates of mandated vaccines, lock downs, masks, but really perhaps one of the most polarizing debates in America today, which is saying a lot, is the idea of transgender rights. This is a debate that's going on right now. And there seems to be two kind of large topics that make up this debate. One of them is the idea of transgender

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people basically in sports, competing in sports. And the other one is what we've covered before on the show is the transitioning of children, often without their parental consent, given some puberty blockers that sometimes have some really big safety issues around them. So this is what's happening right now. The sports issue is really coming to a head. So take a look at what's happening in the news.

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This is just from the last couple of weeks. She's the swimmer who created shock waves across the country as the first known trans gender athlete to win a division one national title. The 17 year old Dallas area high school student won the title of champion in the girl's state wrestling competition Saturday. Two transgender high school runners, well, they're kicking up dust and Connecticut, taking the top

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spots at the state girls championship, leaving parents wondering if they have an unfair advantage. The first openly transgender athlete to compete in a different sex category to that, which they were born at an Olympics. She's transgender in last year. She won a World Champion championship. For her age group racing against women. I suffered from a concussion and neck injury that to this day. I'm still recovering

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from Peyton McNabb is talking about an incident last fall when a transgender athlete she competed against, spiked a volleyball and injured her. Maybe the first to come before you with an injury, but I won't be the last critics say she has an unfair physical advantage over the other swimmers and should not have been allowed to compete. Banks is a transgender athlete. For the girl transitioning to

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become a boy it takes testosterone injections to make that transition happen. Many believe that provides a young wrestler with an added competitive edge. I have said from the beginning and I stand with it that I don't want biological boys to compete against women and girls in sports. It's just not fair. Leot Thomas had 10 years on testosterone. If a biological woman was on that much testosterone

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she would be banned for life because of the changes that it makes to the body. Her lungs are bigger, her backs bigger, her hands are bigger. She just has a tremendous advantage in swimming in the pool against the women and she proved that. There's a lot of factors that go into a race and how well you do. And the biggest change for me is that I'm

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happy. It allows her to be who she wants to be and I think that has a little bit more weight than just winning a medal. These fears that trans women are a threat to women. Women sport are irrational fears of trans women which is the dictionary definition of transphobia. And we need to call it what it is. I feel like as we dive into this very

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sensitive space I want to say that I know our audience, I know that you and I and we've talked to them. We've been working on how to approach this show in a way that is appropriate because truly we are all about accepting people for who they are. This is a free country. We should respect each other as privacy and stand up for one another. We're all

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brothers and sisters on this planet together. But this issue really does challenge the lines between our perspective of ourselves and honestly fairness and reason seem to be hanging in the balance right now. And you can see with the conversation of inclusion in sports. One of the things just from that clip we showed was one of the key points is biological men competing in women sports, biological

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men and boys. And so the Biden administration has weighed into this and they unveiled a title nine update. So this is the headline from Politico. This was earlier this month. Education Department of Vales Title IX transgender sports eligibility rules. This is civil rights rule. It's at the federal level and it originally prohibited sex based discrimination in any school program that received federal funding. So what they're

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doing is the new drafts. Right now it's in draft form. They have to have like a 30 day public comment period. By the comment by the way public. This is what this is all about but continue on Jeffrey. Yeah. So the new draft would allow people to compete in sports consistent with their gender identity. So that is what's going on at the federal level. And at

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at the state level. The same conversation is happening as well. So we have the state map here of 21 states. And you can see here that have enacted laws banning transgender students from participating in sports. It's with their gender identity. And so that's what's happening there. So you can see the division is going. I mean, right there you have to look at some majority. You know,

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if you just look state by state at least how that map is drawn out of people saying this is not a direction we are comfortable going in which you know is very interesting. Right. And they're not you know the lawmakers in those states their intention from my understanding is not to isolate transgender students but to perfect perfect protect fair play in women's sports. That's from my

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research. But also you see at the house level this was the headline just about a week ago House passes a GOP build bar transgender athletes on girls and women's teams. That's not going to get out of the Senate basically. And Biden said he would veto that if it came through. So that's that's where that stands. So you can see, you know, really the push pole and

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the conversations back and forth on this even going all the way up to the executive branch of the government. But there's another conversation that's happening here. So as people are really passionate about these ideas, passionate about these topics, you're seeing a lot of protests. And something that is different than what we're used to here in America. So in America, when we see some of these big

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issues being protested over the last century, we have, you know, women's suffrage for voting rights for women, you know, way way back Martin Luther King, Jr's March on Washington. That's where it is. I have a dream speech. You know hundreds of thousands of people showed up there. And even the defeat the mandate of the rights rally were, you know, historically, this is going to be really

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a big deal as we're looking back against mandated medicine medical freedom. We saw, we saw debate. We saw nonviolence. We saw people coming together to really let the ideas battle back and forth. It's not what we're seeing here with a lot of these conversations around the transgender rights in these protests. So let's look at a couple of these. And, you know, I know we were going

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to give a warning here. So if you have, if you have kids, you know, in the room is maybe a great time to have them to step outside for about five minutes or so. Because we're going to show some video here. There's profanity. But in order to really get to the heart of this, we need to show it as it's happening. So we can have a

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real debate about this. So this is conservative activist Chris Elston. He's also known as billboard Chris. And he was in Vancouver protesting. And he's being interviewed by dandicks of press for truth at a rally, a transgender rights rally. So take a look what happened. Why do you think they're getting that kind of representation? I mean, it's clearly was aggressive violence. You suck. You suck. Fuck you.

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Fuck you. You're not wanted. Fuck you. You're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking. I don't know what to say. I guess these police officers are mostly indoctrinated as well. They're afraid of the mob. I think they're afraid that if they do, they're going to do anything to actually keep law in order. That bill end up being on the end of this verbal abuse. So it's just

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cowardice from everybody all around. Fuck you. People probably want to know how do you keep your composure? What's up? Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Hey. Excuse me. Did you just say he came here to incite violence by forcing his opinion on people? Yes. You think he came here to incite violence because they got

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offended by his sign? When you talk to someone and scream at someone and their face. They put their face in his face. What is wrong with you? Okay. Sorry. You're saying the guy who killed you. How on earth did you become a police officer? She's literally sitting here saying that billboard Chris is inciting violence by standing there with his sign. Is that really your position? Okay,

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sir. We're done with this conversation. Yeah. I thought so. I thought so. This is absolutely undercoming of the Vancouver Police Department. Disgusting. Amazing. We can see that video not screaming. It's clear. There's this one side of perspective. The fact that police aren't there even representing what actually happened there. It's disturbing. It's very difficult to watch and tell on the other side of this conversation are women

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working to defend their societal rights and hard fought. It is the billboard that has caused a lot of controversy this week. Famous blogger Kelly J. King Mintel. She put that up and this is the definition of woman. I've noticed over the last few years we've we seem to be losing the word woman. Why do you not say the pronouns that they choose? I don't care how

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much I've thought I don't care whether they've had surgery. As far as I'm concerned there was no man on this planet that deserves the pronoun she has. I really don't think there is any such thing as a woman who isn't born female. By calling some men this word trans woman which I don't feel makes any sense at all. As soon as we use that word we

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then can't talk about keeping women spaces for women only. I really don't think you can change sex in any meaningful way. Every cell in the human body has got the DNA code of what sex you are. So India obviously looks like a woman but I don't see India as a woman. Now Delsi was recently slated to talk at a rally in New Zealand and we have

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some footage of that that just happened recently. Take a look what happened when she did. Play esportsJ Given will be our promenade in our bits and comes up in ballroom during the extraordinary flood enforcement Coming up by m pl love How your clique did all of this happen?? They settlers or racialized Beef rac reminding. We're! Guys are in this town and have some around with you

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guys. I'm here To Chen! Hello Werec! Well you guysead ain't D'Man To Lanter... I mean she never even got to the microphone to be able to you know speak her perspective you know and so I say it all the time from ours I won't on the anti-vaxxage we've got to be able to listen to each other if we cannot hear each other then how do we

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find you know how we work with each other how do we find our middle ground it's really disturbing when someone's not even allowed to state their opinion in their perspective some really tense moments there as police were really struggling to control that space now back here in America we have NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines she tried to speak on campus of San Francisco State University about her

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views opposing the inclusion of transgender athletes in women's sports take a look how that turned out Yeah I fucking see you drags right on Human Rights Gangs reportedly had to barricade herself in the room with Campus Security at San Francisco State University for almost three hours until police could disperse the crowd there. So again another really tense situation that could have spun out of controlling worse.

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Well I mean look if the police are keeping locked in room for three hours they obviously think that there's danger there. And you know when I think about this, you know first of all you know I'm all about the right to pre peaceful protest very important but when you use intimidation, physical intimidation and we have to be realistic about this. These are women trying to speak

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out in most of these situations and the tension being brought upon them is by physical sized men however they want to call themselves. They have all the abilities and strength of men against women so when you look at Riley Gangs when you look at these you know compared to the discussion that's happening here it's very intimidating and you know as we try to do this story

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so many women want to be able to speak out about how hard they fought for their rights and equality in sports. Something that has been you know in business and now to sort of see that under threat is just and the fact that they can't talk about it because they're being intimidated it's just not the way this should be. It's not the way conversation and debate

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should be happening. The public atmosphere around this debate is concerning and you would hope at this time that a president would be asking for peace and for calm during times like that. But here's the White House press secretary discussing Biden's stance to a room full of reporters recently take a listen. LGBTQI plus kids are resilient. They are fierce, they fight back. They're not going anywhere and

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we have their back. This administration has their back. I mean using words like they fight back like we need them fighting that is not the calm you know this is not the way to fight back. What leadership should we talk about now we need a time of unity we need to start being able to converse not fight terrible terrible advice and words coming from the White

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House right now is very disappointing. Right and refusing also to denounce any of these you know any of these potentially violent acts is also seems to be a misstep from the administration. So it'll be interesting to see how this turns out this is this conversation is not going anywhere anytime soon and with title 9 being on the docket and the public space this is going to

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be something that I think is really going to be on the front burner of really even moving into the debates of 2024 for a president.

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