Central Bank Digital Currency and Babylonian Debt Slavery. Interview with Chris Thrall.

yeah money only facilitates the exchange of value and goods and that's ultimately what I think is important if you concentrate even today on uh learning about something and creating value and providing something useful to society uh that's What Makes You wealthy I think governments could borrow currency as it wanted they spend more than they tax the governments and that's what the Central Banking uh fiat currency

system allows you to do the government is now estimating that it could pay around 900 billion dollars in interest alone yes money can be corrupted like you said that it's been corrupted it's been turned into nothing [Music] money that doesn't actually even exist [Applause] [Music] thank you [Music] Mario how are you sir I'm well thank you Chris I hope you're doing well too oh I'm always

well when I get to speak to someone with um not just a jolly nice character but also someone with an incredible wealth of knowledge the stuff you talk about on your Channel excuse the pun it is gold it it's kind of like what we all need to know to understand the the not just the Babylonian money system but the the the the the encompassing slavery that

comes off it you know what's your background how did you get an interest in in this and explaining it and explaining it to people well I grew up in Brazil where we had a lot of inflation so I was always interested in money uh I've been in the UK since 1992. I worked in the city for 20 years and I was involved in the bond markets

which is a very uh it's a not a market fault in the mainstream whenever you hear uh people reporting on the radio or the news they say oh the footsie did this and the pound did this but the bond market is where uh they set the the price of credit it's very important I have a a University degree in international relations and economics but I would

say that I've learned more from asking questions and doing my own research that I learned at University and uh when I was still in the city I started questioning the system um the uh the structure of the monetary system and I started looking into it privately and ever since I've left the city I've been able to try to tell the public what the uh what the

monetary system is all about and like like you said the Babylonian system that we have that actually enslaves uh the majority of people and uh leaves the 0.1 percent uh with all the wealth uh and it's uh I'm sorry to say it's a scam and uh the thing is most people are too worried about paying their bills to have time to look into these things so

I'm fortunate that I've uh well not totally fortunate just that I ask questions and I I like looking into things and that's what I've done and that's what I try to uh tell my uh viewers about I um follow the markets but these markets are ultimately controlled by the people who control uh the money or the currency as I was saying to Mario earlier I read

this fascinating book that was uh recommended to me by one of our guests Mike McCarthy it's called the Babylonian woe and I only understood I can only remember about two percent of this book folks probably not even that but what I got from it is the money system goes back to sort of um uh eight eight thousand years ago let's just say for example back then

they would use things like cockle shells as a simple system of exchange so you scratch my back I'll scratch yours but if I can't scratch yours I'll give you two cockle shells and these shells can be used anywhere in the region perhaps you know almost you know internationally in regions like the Middle East and that two cockle shells is recognized that's a scratch of the back

or paint your fence or fix your window or sell you a chicken whatever it might be and then the money Merchants got involved or the greed mongers and they fought right we'll start these we'll start a ledger and we'll lend cockle shells out to people that don't have them and when they come to pay them back instead of we lend eight couple shells we get eight

back we're gonna lend eight and we're gonna get ten back known in biblical terms as usury banned I still believe in certain countries in in the Middle East money lending folks is what we're saying almost recognized in the Bible uh in in in um one of the the stories in there that usury would lead to the enslavement of mankind and as this went forward they took

this system into the churches and the Palaces and they convinced the leaders of the time and the religious leaders that your wealth doesn't lie in looking after your people your wealth lies in accumulating these cockle shells you know the start of materialism folks cockle shells obviously naturally turned to or eventually turn to gold silver precious metals gems and so you had these people that should be

looking after you suddenly convinced by these uh very clever money people that know your well your importance comes from how much gold you've you've got down in the vaults and Wilkin funny enough will control that for you and then of course that's come forward through the centuries um Mario and we've seen fractional Reserve banking so lending out this stuff that duck money that doesn't actually even

exist we saw the start of the central banking system I said enough just to give oh no of course we're now moving into ultimate form of money that doesn't exist which is digital money Mario that in itself and I don't understand bonds I I have a rough idea idea of shares and all I don't think I need to know that to know we got a serious

problem here what you said about the cockle shells is interesting uh I've read up a lot on the Austrian School of economics and there's a they have a regression theorem analysis so you go back to see how things started and then come forward and that's what they've done with money and uh money started actually before money you had a direct exchange which is barter so like

you said uh if you were uh I don't know uh you had a farm and you you had eggs and then you needed to to get some milk from another farmer but the the farmer that had the milk didn't want eggs so that was a problem bartering is always a problem and what the auctions talk about is uh what evolved through time and it can be

anything was the most marketable commodity it's a commodity that everyone wants and that actually uh you don't actually uh consume it uh and that's what money is and uh yes money can be corrupted like you said that it's been corrupted it's been turned into nothing but I I think also uh there's a good part of money uh which means that um people can specialize and people

can trade uh from different locations to others because a lot of places let's say have something that you might want here in England that we don't have so I think money is a good thing it allows for specialization I think we we'd still be in caves or very primitive if if we didn't have the concept of money but the whole problem has been that like you

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uh learning about something creating value and providing something useful to society That's What Makes You wealthy I think and and the money comes naturally with that because more people will want to uh like uh exchange with you but what we have today though is the central banks that started out in the 17th century I think Sweden had the First Central Bank but then you had the

bank of England 1694 and what they've done is they uh first of all we need to understand central banks they're only there because the the government gives them the Monopoly in the case of the bank of England it was the royal Charter in 1694. and what we had here was a marriage between these money lenders that you talk about and the government and why do they

do that well because the money lenders benefit from the fact that they're lending to a nation and when you lend to Nations you make a lot more profit the Monarch or the president or whatever the government has the power of taxation so it's almost like the bankers will never lose out because the uh the head of state can always tax and they can always find crises

to justify these uh the Taxation and the national debt prior to central banks if a king or queen wanted to go to war they couldn't lumber at all on the public and and there wasn't a national debt but that's what the central bank has allowed uh the bankers and the governments to do to increase the national debt and the national debt in 1694 was 2 million

pounds now it's approaching three trillion pounds and uh we financed that national debt uh through inflation through taxation we've got the highest taxation in 70 years in the UK and in government is really big as well it's more than 50 percent of GDP and the inflation as you've seen is reflected in higher prices that's the other thing they try to fool you they they tell you

that food prices or wages cause inflation but it's not it's the fact that the central banks they can issue uh all this credit and money out of thin air to buy the government's uh debt which are called bonds and then the government receives this funny money and spends it and the people in the banking at the top in the banking uh community and the corporations around

it they get to use that uh money first so and we get to use it later and it becomes less valuable and um so in in a world that I think would be uh more just you wouldn't have central banks you would have a free market in money uh and uh government wouldn't be involved and some people might might think we have a free market now

that uh the corporations are too powerful but they're only powerful because they're actually connected to to the government so that's how I see it in a nutshell so uh maybe if you have some more questions yes could you Mario for those of us that um have haven't put as much thought to these subjects as we'd probably like to what the hell is the Nash when you

hear about America saying it's the richest most powerful country on the planet could you explain what that means for us yeah so the national debt is uh composed of uh how much the government uh borrows uh and has to keep borrowing and why is that well because they don't even have enough they spend more than they tax the governments and that's what the Central Banking uh

fiat currency system allows you to do and and why do they do that and why do they love this because well they can buy votes they can enrich their friends their their donors so let's say that you uh like have your budget you spent I don't know 10 000 pounds a year and you take in 10 000 pounds so you're fine you're running a balanced budget

but if you start uh spending more than you earn let's say you you spend 12 000 then you have a debt a two thousand so what you will do you go to the central bank or a bank in your case and they'll lend you two thousand pounds but instead you're Pro you'd probably be thinking well I need to pay this off any individuals usually want to

pay off their debt but with the government they just keep accumulating it and why do they do that well because it benefits uh the governments because they they keep borrowing and and they keep uh buying votes they keep uh looking good yeah and it benefits the bankers because they keep the bigger the debt the more interest they get on it and uh the reason also they

tax you uh is to make sure that um they can control the inflation a little bit because if they create too much of this uh debt and government spends too much it might dilute the currency and it does so they tax you so they never let you and the taxation as well I would say is uh to keep the general public always yeah always uh never

having time to sit down and think and about things always being worried about their bills because can you imagine if you didn't have to pay any tax how much more time you'd have and you wouldn't have any worries you wouldn't it wouldn't be good for the uh accountancy business but it would be good for the general public and that's that's the national debt and in the

US actually uh in 1835 or 36 one of those two years Andrew Jackson actually paid off the national debt and he actually did not renew the charter of the Second Bank of the United States because the United States had the First Bank of New York the United States that chartered ended in 1812 and then I think it was restarted in 1816 the second bank so the

U.S had two central banks in the beginning of its uh existence Andrew Jackson didn't renew the charter paid off the national debt uh but unfortunately um in 1913 uh they created the Federal Reserve that's the third um Central Bank and uh is it a coincidence that we had World War One start right after the FED um Fed was created because they they helped finance that and

uh usually the national debt is accumulated the wars really add to the national debt the Napoleonic Wars added a lot to the UK that even though they paid off quite a bit of it in the 19th century but then you had World War One and the national debt went through the roof not just here but in the U.S and and I guess um what we had

in 2020 that that that was kind of like a war I would say and that added massively to the national debt as well uh the bank of England's created half a trillion pounds to buy government bonds and they spent uh all this money so to speak to keep people at home for 240 days doing nothing but still buying things and is it any Wonder prices are

rising now I had a cheap toy meal yesterday in the market I used to love it Mario because it cost five quid for a big bowl of Thai food it's 10 quid now you know in in it like in two years it's just it's so much more so essentially you've got the the the the the banking fraternity lending that you know doing these deals with the

government essentially to make money off of the the people the same people who are in government are they're in the same network as as yeah I mean look at Tony Blair he after he uh uh left as prime minister he got a job with JP Morgan and he was earning two million pounds a year and and I heard when I worked in the city from people

that that worked at JPMorgan that all he did was go into his office for a few hours a week and the you know the junior people to come to come to his office and say Well Mr Blair would you like a cup of tea and stuff that's all he did and uh it's a revolving door and uh and that was basically his reward for another Bankers

War which was Iraq Iraq in Afghanistan that's right I mean that that I don't know if you've heard of a Smedley Butler he wrote uh war is a racket he was a brigadier general he was one of the most decorated U.S Marines and uh he realized later on in life that he'd been fighting for for Wall Street and the bankers not for Freedom or democracy they

always have that excuse and uh I I know it's difficult to tell people because you know a lot of people here in this country there uh grandparents and great-grandparents fought in wars and my wife you know always said well my uh my grandfather and great-grandfather they thought they were fighting for something you know to make to save democracy and freedom but unfortunately it wasn't now Mary

you don't have to hold back on this show because I you know IMAX military I quote unquote put my life on the line on active service and and I think it's your duty as a veteran to learn this stuff although we all get it we know what it's like to have lost colleagues it's it's very highly traumatic for life but it's also simultaneously you're cementing the

bank the next Bankers Wars for them because they laugh at you they literally belong to the same club and they they despise you um they did to you that you're just pawns on the that's a really good book and you should look into so I totally get Smedley Butler getting to the end of a military career looking back and going I've been used haven't I just

wanted to go back to the national debt because some people might be asking why don't we just uh abolish or like default on the national debt you know recently in the US they they had this uh CR that ceiling crisis and a lot of people were saying are they going to default you know what's going to happen uh the flip side of the national debt is

the money that we use the currency every pound in existence has been uh lent uh borrowed into existence by not just the government but also the the private Banks so if you um let's say default on the national debt it's gonna hurt a lot of people because you have a welfare state you you have so many people now dependent on the government so you know the

the private economy has been crowded out so that's the problem with the national debt but I'm afraid as well that uh it's just pure maths when uh when your debt increases so much and your income uh doesn't keep up there's going to be a point where you won't be able to service it anymore and I think we are at that point in the the way they

keep it going is by issuing more and more debt and having excuses like we had in 2020 and we have now with the Ukraine and they keep justifying all this debt but eventually the private economy won't be able to keep up servicing that that and I have a feeling it's all gonna collapse uh just like it almost did in Greece in 2011 2012. um I think

it would have been a good thing for Greece if they had defaulted on their debt but unfortunately the bankers always seem to be in in charge like in Italy some years ago they have what they call caretaker Prime Ministers and they usually come from places like Goldman Sachs or other Banks you know we have Rishi sunac you could say he's a prime caretaker prime minister like

like in Italy because he wasn't he wasn't elected to be prime prime minister so that's the thing the problem with the national debt they make the country so dependent on it that it's really hard to wean off the national debt and if you do that's why you should never believe when politicians I mean I'm hearing uh Jeremy Hunt say a lot oh we're gonna pay down

the debt he's not going to pay it down what he means is he's gonna inflate the system so much that the that the pound in your pocket is going to become worth less and less like your dinner last night and uh the debt and when that happens that that becomes easier to service because it becomes worth less but he's actually not gonna try to run budget

surpluses and actually pay it off like we do he's just gonna inflate it away and uh yeah that that's what's happening yeah it's like trying to pay off your mortgage but um you know instead of actually paying off the the the the the loan you you use up you use that money for something else and then you go back to the bank and say you can

actually yeah have a bigger mortgage now please and and and well you can actually if you uh if you do well enough for for example in terms of buying your house and uh you pay off some of your mortgage and then the value of the house goes up like it has been you know for the last 25 years what you can do is sell the house

uh pay the mortgage off and buy a house with not a mortgage so you can you know you can use this system to your advantage as well um um I don't know let's talk about uh again for our friends at home how was the gold and silver you know leached out of the system and how do we end up at a point of fractional Reserve banking

where you've got the bank Banks lending out money that they don't even have but then charging us interest on on that withdrawal or or on that loan yeah well the gold and silver I I think uh have been hijacked by governments uh gold and silver became money not because of governments they became money in the free market I would say and what governments have done over

the centuries is when they start wars they usually suspend if you have a currency if the government they suspend the convertibility of that currency that the bank's issue uh and by suspending convertibility it means that they don't allow people to get their gold or silver if they go to the bank so and why do they do that well because it's the only way to finance Wars

but what happened after the end of the wars they would go back to normal money uh gold and silver and the banknotes were just promissory notes uh for you uh to go back to your bank and say I want my money back so like after the Napoleonic Wars there was a period from 1797 during the Napoleon Napoleonic Wars to 1821 where they um they stopped the

convertibility to because uh the government had to basically take them the gold and silver to finance the war but after the war finished they went back on on a sound money system and that's how it always happened but unfortunately uh after uh World War One they try to go back to uh a gold and silver system the problem was that world war one was so expensive

that uh Churchill as a Chancellor tried to go back at the old exchange rate and it didn't work and then they just gave up on the on the gold standard in 1931 the silver and I've got here a a crown from George III as you can see here the silver used to be 925 what does 925 mean it's Sterling it's the sterling silver content of the

coins uh in the UK were yeah nine to five until 1919. so after World War One the government spent so much and destroyed so much and unfortunately a lot of people died they had to take the base the silver coins so what do they do well they still minted crowns but it only had half of the silver and that lasted until 1946 and then after 1947

and that data is important because you had World War II they kept ish mincing these but they took all the silver out so that's how they they took all the silver out of our money and uh the gold they just uh suspended it and you just kept using the promissory notes if you look at your bank of England note today it still says I promise to

pay the bear on demand the sum of 10 pounds and that meant that you could go to the to any bank and get 10 sovereigns but I I I've called the bank of England before on the phone and said uh what do you mean by this promise and they said well it just means you can exchange this for a new note if it gets damaged and

I said so why don't you write that on the Note because this is misleading so yeah I'm saying it here uh the bank of England note is fraudulent so there you go so I I I realized that back in 2004 when I was at work I went to get my lunch and I was getting some money out of my wallet and I just looked at it

and I had started looking into this already and I saw that promissory note and the notes back then you probably remember were bigger so you could see it clear and I said wow and then a few months later I got involved into looking at the libertarian party and I went into to London for for like a conference and Boris Johnson was there speaking at the of

this libertarian do and and then there was an economist there Samuel Britton I think he's passed away he used to be an economist for the ft and I took my 20 pound note out and I asked him the question about the system being completely fraudulent and he looked at me and just like basically said oh what are you talking about and just walked away didn't want

to like discuss it a meeting at chap today funnily enough and he uh he met one of the architects of one of the major events of our lifetime he he welcomed him into his business how to do a presentation for this guy in his little little click of people and he and and he said something like you know the around those three numbers folks you know

those three numbers and uh this guy who was one of the architects of that event looked at my friend and said what are you a conspiracy theorist yeah again the fascinating thing that when we go and we say we borrow money for our mortgage the bank don't have that money they just yeah a lot of people a lot of people normally what it should be let's

say you put like a hundred thousand pounds in the bank for safe saving and you say I want to put it there for five years you know at three percent so what most people think is that the bank takes that hundred thousand and lends it uh to Mr Smith at four percent for a mortgage but they don't like you said they just they just write down

a hundred thousand and it's what uh William Patterson said in 1694 the bank half benefit of Interest created uh from money out of nothing and that's what the it's not just the central bank but the commercial Banks uh they they created out of nothing and they take your your house your property as collateral so if you default on it they own something for nothing yes they

so that's fractional Reserve banking um I remember watching this incredible video that said when they brought the central banking system into the USA they picked the the banking community so you know the I suppose these Elite you're what originally would have been European families aristocracy the banking aristocracy they picked a day when everybody was distracted by a certain event I can't remember what it was but

it was a big event and they made their way to a place called Jekyll Island under false identities so no one would know who these Bankers were they sat down at a table on their own and said right we're going to start the Federal Reserve reserve and then we're just going to tell the government they have to have it and the government went oh okay we'll

sign that one off can you tell us a bit about what why is the fed and the you know the the bank of England and all these central banks why why are they you know not in our interest well because basically uh the central banks as I said earlier uh is a collection of the private bankers and they work together with government and uh What uh

the structure does is that it privatizes uh profits so the bankers always when they make profits they keep those profits but if they have a problem because this fractional Reserve System is very fragile you can have a lot of crises so when you do uh you have What's called the lender of Last Resort the central bank will come and save the private bankers and the governments

will save will say oh we need to borrow a bit more so they'll just issue more credit and the government will spend more and bail out the banks so that's called uh socializing the losses so basically the private bank private Banks create the central banks uh in order to make sure that if they're uh highly immoral fractional result game goes wrong the public gets left with

the bill and they always find a crisis to justify that and then but when they make a lot of profits they keep those profits so I think that's the reason for the central bank and there's a really good book called our Crowd by Stephen Birmingham and he wrote about all the major uh families that created this Federal Reserve and in one section of the book He's

he talks about a guy a banker called August Belmont who actually was sent to the U.S in 1837 by the Rothschilds and um in 1837 there was a huge banking crisis collapse in the U.S and uh August Bellman who was very young at the time he was able with Rothschild money to buy all these assets Force Pennies on the dollar and uh in the book though

it says because the book is written by this guy in the 1960s and he interviewed actually members of these families like old aunts and grandmas and stuff and the book said August Belmont and the Rothschilds acted like the Federal Reserve they came in and bailed out everyone you know after this crisis in New York and in the financial system in 1837. so the Federal Reserve in

1910 you had the the bankers and they were the same people from this crowd our crowd they're meeting in Jekyll Island so why do they meet there what was the uh excuse for having a central bank well because in 1907 there's a huge crash that was triggered by the earthquake in San Francisco and uh JP Morgan he had to come in and bail everyone out organize

the bailout and uh I think JP Morgan uh many people don't know JPMorgan Banks started out in London and I think the Rothschilds are heavily behind the JP Morgan's so I I think what happened in 1907 uh the bankers said to themselves we need to do something about this we almost lost everything in 1907 so they came up with the idea of uh a Central Bank

in the U.S to make sure that uh when they did uh have trouble with their schemes that the public would come to the rescue through the central bank and the way they sold the Central Bank uh was uh to say that they're going to make the currency more flexible that it would end Bank runs and collapses but it didn't do any of that I mean last

March this year we had the one you know two three biggest collapses in banking in the U.S uh the the currency has lost 99 of its value since the Federal Reserve was created when they finally were able to write the Federal Reserve Act they they put it to a vote in Congress on December 23rd 1913 and December back then there were no flights or air airplanes

and travel took a long time so most of the uh people in Congress had gone home for Christmas already and that's how they sneaked it through and the president of course was Woodrow Wilson and he he was You could argue bought and paid for it by the bankers he was put there by the bankers so he made sure that he signed a Federal Reserve Act into

law and he actually uh I don't have the comment here but he he quoted he said that that was the biggest mistake he he made I mean you could look that up uh Woodrow Wilson on his regret about signing the Federal Reserve Act and there were a lot of people back then who were in Congress who try to warn people against the Federal Reserve but again

they were dismissed as well as being you know conspiracy theorists even though I don't think they had that term at the time one of them was uh congressman Charles Lindbergh who was the the father of The Aviator uh Lynn the the guy who flew across the Atlantic and ironically Charles Lindbergh The Aviator married the the daughter of a JP Morgan partner so there you go it's

quite fascinating when you see how the the big Club you know they they Network and they they get their uh we say grubby mix into into everyone else's family fortunes um and also the thing I think uh if I understand it right with with this central banks is because they control the base rate the the interest rate when they raise it so we saw this in

the 90s when I managed to buy a house for a third of its value because the poor people that bought it brand new nine months before me they'd mortgaged up to the hilt like most people do because you don't think it's ever going to happen the rate went up this poor couple with their first brand new house couldn't afford a mortgage that has gone let's say

in modern times from a thousand pound a month it's suddenly gone to three thousand you just know who can so so the banks repossessed their poor house and then they sold it to me at a third of the price now if you have that control over the interest rate Mario am I right in thinking when you put it up there isn't the money in circulation to

pay these debts back so people default and then the big companies remember it's all a big Club folks it's all one big Network the say oh right we'll Hoover up all these small independent cafes in the High Street and guess what's coming we're going to put a big cost of coffee there you know you see they've sucked all that wealth up into their Network and they

replace it with their corporatized you know the same with the pub uh you know the I mean it's like slightly different but but we've lost it's all a matter of maths uh a little bit under fractional Reserve System and how it favors the bankers and over a centuries it basically enslaves the general public so I'll give you an example let's say a farmer needs has has

a farm that's worth a hundred pounds and he grows uh wheat there or she grows wheat and the yield from the the farm every year is three or four percent so they make a fairly decent living uh and then you have the banker who let's see let's say takes in 100 pounds in deposit uh let's say the the bank of England or a Commercial Bank and

they'll lend uh a thousand pounds on the back of that and they'll lend it to you at five six percent so they're making like multiple times of what the farmer is making and and when you uh control that for centuries uh is it any wonder that um yeah the bankers almost own everything now in the big corporations and uh the landowners the farmers they're you know

they don't have as much as they used to so it's just a matter of math so you extrapolate that fractional reserve it there it's worse than a I would say a loan shark because a loan shark at least has the money to lend to you uh the bankers don't and uh they actually make uh de facto more interest because they're making five or six percent not

on a hundred but on a thousands and they've only got a hundred so that's how we've come to where we are right now and uh I don't think the political system will help any even the labor parties who's supposed to be a party for the people he's come out and said that he wants to uh starmer that is to to buy land from landowners at below

market value you know how is that fair and um the reason people are so hard up is not because of uh yeah it's because of this system that's what it is and and I'm afraid to say the political system is also a distraction to divide people so people don't look at the this uh this problem which is the the money system that's the big problem and

why do I think it's the biggest problem well because half of all you know we need make a do a commercial transaction half of that transaction is to do with money so like you said if the bankers control the base rate and the loans and the currency and it's a monopoly they control everything exactly exactly there's three things that come on to Marion I am aware

of your you kindly giving us all this time um and I'll I'll name them in no particular order but one of them is bricks and I'm gonna hold my hand up and say I keep hearing it mentioned I honestly don't know anything about it the second thing is the Petro dollar and how that related for example to Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein who I believe didn't want

to trade their oil in the in in the dollar and then the final thing you know it wouldn't be right if we didn't talk about Central Banking um digital currencies and the way the whole digital ID thing is going so should we take bricks or the petrol dollar first we'll go to Bricks then uh I mean bricks is an acronym for Brazil Russia India China and

South Africa and it was actually uh started thought up by an economist from Goldman Sachs an English Economist for Goldman Sachs and uh but it's been used Now by by those countries to create a block to challenge basically the G7 and why is that well because the G7 used to be very powerful in the 80s and 90s but uh the uh economic growth of China India

Russia Brazil it's made them you know relatively more important and they want to have a say so they've created this block uh they're talking about creating their own uh Reserve currency and why is that well because the dollar has been used uh as a weapon um against these countries and I'm not taking signs I'm just telling you why it's happening so that's the bricks in a

nutshell the petrol dollar we have to go back to 1971 and why is that well that's when Richard Nixon closed the gold window and that's how they call it but they because from 1944 when uh towards the end of World War II they created the brettonwood system and under that system the dollar uh 35 dollars uh were backed by one troy ounce of gold so the

world was basically on a semi-gold standard and why semi because all the other currencies want on a gold standard but they were packed to the dollar but by 1971 the United States had printed too much too many dollars without backing and the French the British and other countries were going to the treasury with their paper dollars and say I want my gold so and they didn't

Europe wanted to reinstate a gold standard in Europe and it would have like uh put a lot of the power of the US it would have eradicated a lot of the power of the US so people didn't trust a doll anymore because it wasn't backed by anything so the Americans found found a way to increase demand for dollars so they went to the Saudis um and

said we will protect your kingdom and uh you know from enemies but the condition is that you sell all your oil in dollars and what does that do well that means that uh every country in the world that buys oil and the reason why uh it becomes important is because Saudi Arabia was the biggest producer so even other countries that produce or started dealing in dollars

and and when they received those dollars what do they do with it well they go and buy let's say U.S government bonds and it keeps interest rates low so that's what the Petro dollar did it was basically a way to support the dollar uh after you know it defaulted on its gold obligations but yeah and America has had the the privilege basically to issue uh the

dollar and buy anything they want anywhere else while other countries like the UK and anyone else if we want to buy something from abroad we have to earn in dollars to pay for everything every good thing comes to an end and uh the flip side of this privilege the US has had is that they've they've indebted themselves up to here like you said you know it's

the national debt is like 32 trillion is probably going to go to 34 in the next 18 months and so I get go back to the bricks the bricks you know Saudi Arabia wants to join now the bricks and um and they realize that the dollar is not as good as gold anymore they issued too many of it and the petrodoll is on its way out

so uh what that will mean for the dollar and for Americans is that there's going to be less demand for dollars so uh everything's going to be more expensive for them and because interest rates are going to go up and it's going to be the same thing for us here because our currency and the European currencies were always backed by a lot of dollars and uh

so and your third question was about so we had can I just ask a question so so the club as I call it so these European aristocracy Bankers um do they not you know through their Network control Saudi Arabia and and um you know uh was it Brazil you you you Russia yeah I think they do you know because you look back and some people might

find it strange but the Americans Finance the um the Communists and they finance Finance also the nationalists you know in the Civil War in China Nixon went to China and back in the 70s for dead tones with China up until then uh in the U.N China was Taiwan and then Nixon opened you know changed all that so yeah they control them as well but I I

think the power is Shifting to uh to those countries and they're probably involved with these countries too these these families but they don't care because they will make a lot of uh probably a lot of money from from the bricks it's the general public that's gonna suffer so the sorry to interrupt mayor but it's for our friends at home to understand so the club folks you

know this elitist Network that that seems certainly to have been very strong in the last 400 years but as we've established actually goes right probably right back to the a re you know the original Corruption of the money system they're not just happy to destroy Europe to level it flat Millions upon millions of deaths of all All Peoples including whichever you know nationality they belong to

um and they've done that twice now um um but then they moved on to America and used the good beautiful people of America who were very humble and could we say a bit naive because they love their country and why wouldn't you it's a beautiful country and Americans are such nice people but they then use the Americas uh sense of national pride against them to to

keep their you know Star Spangled Banner flying but at the same time is leeching everything from under them so that their country is now just about to collapse with the biggest debt of all well they did that they did that to the British Empire and the British people yeah now they moved on to China China's the place it's weird because if you look at the Oxford

University for example they have something called the road scholarship that was created by the roads trust Cecil Rhodes and and that's supposed to uh Finance American students to come and walk study at Oxford and Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and so on and did you know that Oxford University now has also a road scholarship for Chinese students these are not Taiwan students and it's financed

by uh Blackstone a huge private Equity Group so they they keep telling us that China's bad she were going to go to war but they're still dealing with the Chinese uh so and back in the 30s uh the Wall Street Bankers they finance Germany they built up Germany in the last 25 years they've built up China Russia and now they're our biggest enemies I think it's

just a is just a game for them and uh but they make they make it seem that it's a it's real for us for the General Public and if we look at all of that history Cecil Rhodes and we had didn't we we had the East India Company basically the front I call it the club because like it's just this yeah yeah and there's different layers

of the club there's the real clever people well I don't even want to say that and but then they have their layers of what we just call them puppets of different intelligence um some of them not really not not really that smart at all um not referring to um to generations of American president there but um my point is this system of just don't like to

use that word let's just say raking the heart out out you're raking the wealth out of these countries the gold out of South Africa the Diamonds the incredible mineral wealth that they have down there in Africa the fish the copper now it's lith I mean it's nothing new is it so when you mention there's a Cecil road yeah it I absolutely have you know I have

I have no doubt yeah and so we we've covered bricks Petro dollar what was the uh we were going to do the Central Banking digital currency oh yeah cbdc's yeah I I think you know uh if we look back at money and like we have I spoke about how it used to be golden you know gold and silver coins and then they issued the uh Warehouse

receipts and then uh the governments hijacked that and took the gold and silver out of the system so you had to have the warehouse receipts as money because the cash that we have today the pay the pay the banknotes they're not really money so cbdc would just be the next step in taking away from real value which is gold and silver and uh yeah and it

would put you in a a prison because if you did something that um the bankers and that's not just government but the banks as well because they'll follow all these rules if you did something that they didn't think was right they can freeze your account but if you have cash you can keep cash outside the system uh and and that's why I tell a lot of

my viewers that you need to have some physical gold and silver coins that's why I like having some of these and I have uh thruppney bits as well three Pence they're all silver coins so yeah that's what the cbdc will do they'll they'll it will be a total uh I guess uh total slavery I would say and I'm not trying to be dramatic here but that's

what it means to see babies you you're not being dramatic because I mean let's be honest we are talking about the the again I don't want to say the words folks because it it triggers certain software but you know we are talking about the NWO yes they they have a game play you don't play Monopoly and everyone who sits at the table you know drinking their

Sherry at Christmas like nobody wants to Win It there's always that person isn't there that well you don't care and you're dropping your money in your houses everywhere because you're you're a bit pissed they've got the you know the money up their sleeve under the table they they are going to win at every cost life is no different um especially when you have this strata of

individuals that think the rest of the world is scum um that think by Birthright you're you'll you're really undeserving and you're just is it chattel is that a word like cattle yeah for their own amusement and and uh what we've what we've you know populations and stuff it's not difficult to see why if you're in this elite club you might want to get rid of a

few people um before they concrete like the whole planet before they eat the whole of the rainforest because um you know it I don't think you're being dramatic uh at all Mario I think these are incredibly real issues I say um uh chatting with Mick yesterday and uh we were just saying how it's all well and good saying digital currency is fine and you have it

on a you know a just have a card or they sell that on convenience but the problem is when it's all controlled by by a central system you could Rock up to do your Supermarket shopping and suddenly and this is just an example folks I know the supermarket girl isn't going to say this but you know your your credit is declined and when you say I'm

sorry what what are you talking about I've got I've got loads of money in the bank they say um I'm sorry Mr thrall did did you attend a protest in London last week you know were you objecting to you know maybe a certain procedure that that they wanna that the whole population is going to be yeah I was actually yeah there you go sir well I

was reading something an article uh someone sent me just before we came on and it was about uh Goldman Sachs they they work with apple in the US to provide uh people an Apple Bank savings bank and then Apple debit or credit card and a lot of people were complaining they couldn't move their money from their apple I.E Goldman Sachs accounts and one of the things

that people at Goldman Sachs said is that they they have to maybe sometimes conduct anti-money laundering and know your client things which is basically uh Banks shouldn't be involved in that that's for the police I would say a few are criminal the but what happened is people got their money blocked at Apple Bank because let's say uh you put ten thousand dollars in your bank uh

Apple Bank or ten thousand pounds and then you take that and you transfer to another account it will trigger these anti-money laundering things and they'll freeze your account so it's not just a government but these banks are going to be doing that too the thing is if it's your money they shouldn't do that it's like when you go to your uh bank now if you go

to the branch and you want to take let's say 2 000 pounds cash they ask you so many questions and uh a lot of times I just say it's none of your business it's my money but I'm afraid you know they're gonna get a lot tougher so what's the way to take the other problem is if you take your cash out of the bank which I

think is not a bad thing to have some cash but they could also demonetize it uh in India they did that a few years ago they gave people 48 hours to exchange their banknotes for new ones so uh they can control you am I right in thinking or suggesting if it's a Central Banking digital currency then technically the world the central banks of the world could

unite in governing it and and and and and and the dealing yeah so it really would be like the new world yeah and and a bank that would run that would be the bis in Basel the banker bank for international settlements which was created in 1930 uh by an international treaty in The Hague by by the major European countries and the bankers and um but I

think uh I've read up on the uh britcoin the bank of England digital currency uh they would be of course behind it like you said but the wallets would be they would Outsource that to private companies or to normal Banks But ultimately uh and they say in their white paper the bank of England that they wouldn't have access uh the the private companies would be in

charge of the accounts so they wouldn't see anything but I can bet I can bet they will have access to it you know this is just them trying to say oh no it's not going to be any bad because you're going to have your own private wallet supporters you know digital wallet providers and we're not going to do anything but um I think it's a nefarious

uh nefarious Endeavor by the by the central bankers and many people think they'll bring it in by bringing in a collapse of this fiat currency system and it's possible but the other danger for them though is that people wake up and that's why I keep doing my videos and I'm coming on your show if people wake up and they realize that they're doing this by Design

and when the crisis happens and they come out and say oh this is the solution to it the cbdc hopefully a lot of people will say no I don't want to deal with you anymore you created this collapse and uh we don't want your solution and of course they're going to try to uh blame anyone but themselves they'll have they'll blame Russia or aliens for for

the collapse or anything but uh there they they are actually the ones behind it you mentioned people should buy gold and silver or have some of it would that be any use if if the money system collapse tomorrow and people let's just say within a week of starving and their families are you know within three weeks the family's starting to die I I just see Rampage

rampaging gangs yeah um I mean I agree with you and there's a really good book uh written by Lionel Shriver she's an American uh author but she lives in the UK called the mandibles I recommend it and it's like dystopian like you're describing there but uh for example I have a viewer from Kent uh and I talked about the threat threateny bits that I bought a

few weeks ago the silver ones and they have a farm and they said Mario whenever you want to come over we will gladly sell you our eggs and uh strawberries for for silver so I I mean it it could come in handy but like you said uh in a Mad Max world uh yeah it wouldn't really help but I think if we're able to get through

uh the troubles and a better world then you will still have that to to be able to uh use that for for your advantage and also to help people it's not just for you uh because you know when gold and silver they they never really lose their value you know you find coins that have been buried for thousands of years and so the reason I mean

I don't tell people to buy gold and silver I tell them what I'm doing and I try to tell them what it what it's about and a lot of them do and uh it's also a protection against inflation because they're going to continue to issue a lot of the currency um because it's the debt and they have to keep it going and it's just a simple

law of supply and demand the more a supply of something I.E the currency the less valuable it becomes and gold and silver are they're not really easy to come by they're rare and that's why their money yeah friends I wasn't trying to be scare mongering then I I believe we create our own future and we do it by making the spiritual connection which all this fear

drops away because for example and I think have a feeling Mario would agree with me here when you Mario mentioned Keith starmer I I honestly didn't know who he was I know he's in the news a lot yeah yeah but I don't watch mainstream media folks I you know my wife and I haven't watched uh we haven't had a TV license since 2015 and we don't

watch TV good but and this is a glimpse of news but I agree with you is you have to switch off and uh uh because they want to keep you uh in uh in fear and fear is not a good emotion Lionel shriver's interesting didn't she write we need to talk about Kevin I think so yeah yeah which was uh yeah I didn't write read that

one but one of my viewers recommended the mandibles and that and that's really a good one yeah it seems uh I can't get too deep into this folks for the same reasons but it's interesting we were talking yesterday Mario in the podcast but I mean I'm an author of six books I actually best selling I was number two bestselling author in Hong Kong for a while

but but here's the thing it's incredibly hard work my suggestion is I think the books get picked Again by the network um when you see books uh like the other one about the apocalypse was the road wasn't it by Cormac McCarthy about this dystopian future where there'd been some big disaster you never got to know what it was um and Lionel Shriver she wrote she's written

this apocalyptic book but she also wrote one about her a guy that went a bit Banzai in school if you you know I'm just saying you know you I wouldn't because yeah people will put narratives in your head folks and you don't even know it you know that's true you don't even know it so I think we're all agreed um a good place to start Mario

isn't it is turn off that don't stop listening to that mainstream don't be the person that has the BBC as your source of information even if it's like ah but I just wind down Chris at the end of the day I I don't take it sick come on you do don't you let's be honest I mean you know BBC I mean it's such a I mean

that you look at uh they're run by the bankers too I think uh some years ago the head of the BBC was a guy called Marcus agius and he was a son-in-law of a Rothschild and now the latest guy sharp former Goldman Sachs so it's um British brainwashing Corporation yeah one incredible guest folks say um absolutely brilliant I thank you on behalf of the Next Generation

for for what you're doing and I wish everyone was as Brave as you Mario but we can only live our lives can't we and we can only fight our own spiritual battles and I think that's most important is to work on ourselves folks and uh it's great to have a guest that's that's just done obviously done that and then is giving so much back to to

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