Bob Ryan: 1976 NBA Finals - Game 5 (3OT) - [45th a

This game deserves national attention. Show it to these people. 254 points without a three point shot. The pace of the game, the emotion of the game, the Boston Garden, you'll never see anything like that again, right? Then you are in our spirit right now. You're talking in the A basketball. You're talking great teams, you're talking great individual players. Takes it off and there's number 23 and

of course Johnny goes nuts. It's a wrong game. There's a bunch of things about it now. I just tried to go up there with playing my game. I have no idea what you're talking about, I don't like anybody, I'm not a peeper person. Grant, you make the pass, yes. You catch the ball, yes. All the stars are aligned and all the muscles fall out at the

right time. I was saving that as a surprise for you. Introducing your host for in all airness and a Ryan. Welcome to episode 119. Thanks for joining me. Today I'm excited to welcome back to the show, legendary Boston Globe columnist and basketball Hall of Famer Bob Ryan. Plus my good pal in Los Angeles, Phoenix Sun's Superfan. Adam Beechan. We discussed the 1976 NBA Finals specifically. They're

a remarkable game five. Phoenix at Boston. June the 4th, 1976. This past weekend marked the 45th anniversary of that iconic game. Though it was the early hours of June the 5th here in Australia. For Bob and Adam our conversation was held on the afternoon of June the 4th in the USA 45 years ago to the day. Bob covered the game for the day. After the Boston

Globe he shares wonderful anecdotes from his vantage point at the famed Boston Garden. Adam was 7 years of age and shares his recollections of those finals and how they impacted him going forwards. Me? Well I was only 11 months and 21 days old. The first I learned about the series was when I watched the excellent NBA Entertainment VHS or some endings circa 1990. It was widely

regarded as the greatest game ever played. Adam first appeared on the podcast back in the day. In May 2016 we released an episode titled Fenix Rising. It's episode 71 of the show. We covered the evolution of the Fenix Sons from the franchises 1968-69 Inception through to the 1993 NBA Finals. Today's episode is a terrific compliment to that conversation. Towards the end of the episode I'll share

another great podcast review. If you can spare a moment or two please add your review via your listening app and it'll be most appreciated. Show notes for this episode and access to a huge archive of past episodes are available at inallannas.com. Now onto the show. As we speak it's June the 4th of 2021. 45 years to the day for both yourself Adam and Bob since the

incredible game 5 of the 1976 NBA Finals at Boston Garden. What memories spring to mind Bob from that remarkable night in NBA history when you think about it. Probably you have to start with the back-to-back text position of the great shots. John Halvetex which people thought it must have won the game which it turned out there were two seconds to grow legitimately. The clock had run

out illegitimately. And then Garherd's shot which was a result of Paul Westball's pressions having to wear a thought to call a timeout. They did not have earned a technical foul but then gave them the ball admit court and set up Garherd's shot. Here comes the Celtics. Mark will start when it's touch. Have a check. Touches it. It begins three seconds. Hondo off the guys. Hey, no,

Phoenix case with powers. They're going to call a timeout now. Do they have one left? And here are the use boat. I would not be surprised if they were calling to climb out the game to distance and have a technical foul. They have a score from 94 feet. They may from half force. It's time again. The layoff believe it. Garfield heard it. The buzzer threw one

in outside. We've got a third overtime and a busted gun. And I'll get off my soapbox. But I'm going to set one thing straight right now. Over the years, the mythology has grown that Garherd shot was a three-time point shot level. That is false. That is completely and totally false. It was foul. I'm extended. It was about 18 feet. Now it was about 100 feet in

the air. He had the most amazing arc on his shot. But it was not a three-point shot. West Falls spinning lefty banker. Damned stretch. And then a quest plan McDonald's one minute of fame. This Andy Warhol 60 seconds of basketball fame that won the Celtics that game. There's so many great jumping points from what you just brought up there. I read your review of the game

the next day in the Boston Globe from 1976. He described Garherd shot as a moon shot. It had that much arc on it. Adam, what brings to mind when you think of it? My memories are pretty personal. I was seven years old. And my parents had split that summer. The sons were something that brought everybody together in Phoenix. Phoenix didn't have much of a professional sports

history or any sports history. Really. It was a college football town and a little bit of a college baseball town. That was the year that people really became aware of the sons. The community really turned out. Everybody watched those games together. Everybody knew all the players names. They rooted for all of them and they belonged to us. And so I can remember sitting on the floor

of my dad's apartment. When Garherd hit that rainbow shot. And it wasn't a three-pointer. You're right. It was a tough shot. But it wasn't an impossible shot. And just falling flat on the carpet. And my dad's apartment just being amazed that that had actually happened. And those guys became my heroes and became the reason I'm such a big fan of basketball. I want to amplify you

talking about the history of the sons. They unexpected nature of their periods in the finals. They were 42 and 40. They played better in the second half of the year. They shocked the world by beating the defending champion warriors in the 7th game series. And I know how excited the fandom was. You know what the nickname Adam of the building was the Mayhouse on McDowell Street.

The Veterans Memorial Coliseum. It was a very great vibrant atmosphere. Remember the Seles one of those first two games Handlely and then came back and the sons won the first game, 10598. Which as I recall, the game started at 12 noon. And everybody was talking about the crazy starting time out there. People were worried. People weren't going to get home from church. I'm serious and time

for the game to watch it on television. But the killer for the Seles was the game for which is a two-point game. That's right. And I know the game six started pretty early too back in Phoenix. The Sunday game six. Yeah. There was a short turnaround between the games. But I know that game five in Boston was after everybody had gotten off of work. And people

were pre-gaming enthusiasm. So he asked a few questions and I'm sure you've heard all the stories. My recollection of Sunday was that everybody was wiped out emotionally. And the Phoenix fans who would only watch the game from 2,500 miles away on television were mentally whipped. They'd bring it on Sunday Adam. Yeah. You're right. Everybody was just limp with exhaustion from that fifth game. I think the

only person who had any energy was Charlie Scott because he had filed out of all games. So, right? Keep put on a show for his old fans. You know the backstory on that? Yes. He found out in several games in the playoffs, including that series. Red Hourback went to him after game five and said, Charlie, get your rest. You are going to be important on Sunday.

We will need you on Sunday. Remember the famous site of JoJo sitting on the floor exhausted on the floor? While the game was still on. And he put 33 points. But Red Hourback said, Charlie, Sunday has to be you. He played an amazing game far better than anybody else on the court. I'd like to ask you Bob, particularly about the great Paul Westfall, Hall of Famer,

who sadly passed away 870 earlier this year. Your relationship with Paul was quite special. Just a little bit of backstory for our listener. Westy was drafted by Boston in 1972. He was the 10th pick overall. And he played three seasons with the Celtics. And in 1975, Boston traded him to Phoenix for Charlie Scott in your excellent book, Scribes. And you detail some time spent with Paul

in our area. How would you describe your relationship with the great Paul Westfall? Well, first of all, I have always been a rule breaker with regard to the fact that the writers are supposed to be totally detached. And you know, and get yourself in personal relationships. Well, I'm a human being first. And I find a way to negotiate that circumstance when he arrived in 1972. He

was a very bright young man from the University of Southern California, engaging with me. We hit it off. We became friends. And I don't deny that. There's several anecdotes along the way with I was a friend of Paul Westfall so much. And then I did have a falling out with Tom Linson. And therefore, when I went to Phoenix for games three, four, and six, I did

not stay in the hotel with my colleagues. I stayed at Paul Westfall's house at 552 West Burridge Lane in Phoenix, Arizona. Do you have to know what that is? Yes, I do. But anyway, I stayed in this house driving to those games from Paul Westfall's house. I did one other anecdote. Because with the three hours, I was going to have a time difference. We had, I

was done writing and it was still the middle of the afternoon. And the sun was out. And Paul Westfall had a pool. And so we would go to the pool. And among the visitors were Alvin Adams who lived down the street, Wookie Alvin Adams, Keith Erickson. And the guy who was the 13th man on the 12th man, Waster left off the playoff Waster didn't play a

second. Some guy named Riley. Riley. So those are the memories I had. But I was very close to Paul Westfall. And but boy, he was spectacular in that series. I was so thrilled when he got up. And he was able to do it. It's also worth saying that he was an incredibly nice guy. When I was a kid, I used to rebound for the sons of

the Phoenix Jewish Community Center where they practiced. And I had the good fortune to be in Springfield in 2019 when West he was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Oh, wow. It was great fun. It was amazing for me. And to walk up to Westy and tell him that I had rebounded for him at the JCC. He said, oh, yeah, you're the guy. Nice rebounding and

assigned a photo to me. Adam, great rebounding, Paul. And just to be there to watch him accept that honor was really something special for the seven year old and for me now. But of course, Adam, that you pointed out he was traded for Trellis Scott, which was a shock of what had happened. And the idea that they would at the end of that season be up

against each other in the finals was unimaginable. Simply because the sons were not played to be there. The Celtics were one of the favorites always in those days, but not the sons. Everyone assumed that the Warriors would be back defending your title. I can tell you that. But no one agreed that they were going to be playing against each other in the finals. You mentioned earlier

how towards end of the second overtime, referee Richie Powers was involved in a fight hand-to-hand combat basically with a fan after the fan stormed the court when I thought the game had ended after the second OT. What did you see as that unfolded Bob with all the mayhem and pandemonium that was happening there inside Boston Garden? Richie Powers was in a fight with a fan right

here in front. Rockery Richie Powers was in the first place. The towers was assaulted by a fan. They pulled the bore off. They got fans out the middle of the floor. The feeding sons trying to get it cleared. Well, I think the word unimaginable applies at the time. The idea that a fan would come out of it. I can still picture it as you speak, Adam.

The site of Richie Powers rolling around on the floor, but disbanded. Probably on the emblem in mid court. The security was horrible. And the sons were livid about this. And to this day, if you talk to Sherry Kalangel, I promise you won't go more than 30 seconds before it brings up the lack security at the Boston Garden. They were really upset about it. I know that.

The fan stormed the court. They thought the game was over, but they had to be taken off. And the sell they said go into the locker room. They thought it was well. There were two seconds to go. And there should have been two seconds go. They let the clock run out. So yes, Richie Powers being attacked was shocking and obviously indefensible. Unbelievable. Just reserging for the

chat today, Bob, I read your next day article in the Boston Globe. And if you'll indulge me just for a moment, it begins, what do you say after you've seen the greatest game of professional basketball ever played? Since that time has any game changed your mind on where this game ranks? I'm sure there have been several, including some I would not fill it to be to

attend. I'm one of them made of above the sons. A multi overtime game against the balls back in 93. There have been too many that have challenged it for the scope of everything that happened and the background to it that the impromptuability of the sons being the team that would push the Celtics to this extent is part of the story for sure. But when you think

about, we talked about the Howell Check Shot, which by the way, I think I also did quite in terms of Northern Ryan's basketball off the glass. I think something like that. It was right in front of me. And that shot couldn't have been shot harder off the glass. I don't know how it still didn't shadow their glass, but it did go in third shot, West Falls

shot Curtis Curry shot. That's another big shot that was a very important one, including the fact that the Celtics and I maintain this to this day. The best basketball that they played in the entire 1976 playoffs with the first 14 minutes of that game. They were out by 18 at the quarter. And I think I expand the lead to 22 and the sons just, okay, you've

done now. And they came back all the way back, obviously, the push into overtime. Plus they were down nine points with what, three in change and West Falls led them back with one amazing spinning banker, which everybody remembers. They were resilient. They had two players that were very, very, they had two rookies who weren't rookies. They weren't mentally spiritually rookies, Alvin Adams, and Ricky Soldiers. And

they were well mature, beyond your years the players. Let me take a quick Alvin Adams thing in the training camp that year. I was on the phone with Westfall, my friend. And he said to me, and I remember this quote, Adams plural. I remember this quote to, to this day verbatim. Bob, we have here a young man who can play basketball, unquote. And he was talking

about Alvin Adams. And, and then considered to tell me about this virtue, his about him. He was a foreccious player, if everyone was one. He was unflappable, unemotional, unfazed, poised, mature, professional from the day he walked on the court. Adam, your friend is not even anything you'd like to add there. I think that when Alvin was drafted, if I'm not mistaken, there were some mixed reactions

from the fans because nobody had heard of him. He played at Oklahoma. He played in the big eight. It was not a power conference in those days. And Oklahoma wasn't a big program. John McLeod had come from near the sun's coach. He had recruited Alvin, but not coached him there. So people didn't really know what they were getting with Alvin Adams. And Alvin shot up the

summer league that year. And people had an idea that he and Westfall had some really good chemistry. And by the time they got to the playoffs, Adams was really well seasoned. He had seen everybody in the league. And I think he was maybe the one guy who could run with Dave Cowan and take Cowan's outside and away from the basket and shoot jump shots. And so

he was really a perfect matchup to have in that series against Boston. He was amazing. But the best thing about Alvin as far as I'm concerned, and I think you can find this on YouTube, is that when he accepted the award for rookie of the year, the first person he thanked was David Thompson for going to the ABS. And I think that's why Keith Erickson, in

2001, the Boston Globe Commission myself and my colleague, Peter May, to do a 25th anniversary retrospective on the game. We were given a month and a half. We tracked down every living participant, okay? Which includes trainers, Joe Poskey and Phoenix, which included, of course, Alvin Acki, but as we have to tell the Alvin Acki story, you know about the ring right Adam. We have to tell

it. Please. Okay. And the two referees had passed Don Murphy and Richard. But anyway, we tracked everybody down. I went out to Phoenix. I had dinner with Bianchi. I went to my class house. Of course, I went to Alvin who was running the building in, I don't remember. And we got him all. And Peter got him. Okay. One of the things that Erickson told me about

the young Alvin Adams, the first trip the team made to New York. They're riding on the bus. And Alvin looks out of all the tall skyscrapers. The kid from Midwest City, Oklahoma, which I'm sure is a cross-grace summer right about the city. He's not a country kid, but even sheltered when you read. He's looking at the tall buildings and he goes, golly. That's it. That's Erickson

story. Alvin Adams, golly. Where am I? So there you go. It's just tremendous. I'm really glad that you mentioned that feature, Bob. We ran over two days. Yeah. The first day it was called Stand Up Triple. And then the following day on the Monday edition, it was very cleverly titled View from Birds Eyes. So as I understand it, you also met with Larry Bird as he

watched the game for the first time in his home theater. I think in Naples, Florida. How was that experience watching Larry Legend watching this game for the first time? Number one, it was so much fun. He actually had a little home theater, including a popcorn machine. And not to mention the cooler. And we sat in this theater chairs. I brought the cassette of the game. He

had never seen it. He was acidity. He was enthralled. He loved so many aspects of it. Number one thing he loved was the peace, the fast breaking, the relentless fast breaking of both teams. He loved that. He loved some of the individual plays. And he said, Silas is really this good. I said, better than you think. He had known the up Silas, but didn't know how

good Paul Silas was. Oh, yeah. That was good. That was a fun story to write. I can tell you that. That was a great moment for me. I'm glad you got to see that. Yeah, it's fantastic to see the piece. And I've got access to newspapers.com. So to pay subscription, but if anyone does have access to see the article, absolutely sensational. Just one thing I wanted

to ask particularly Bob Game 5 was tip off at 9pm. It was the longest finals game in NBA history to that point. Given it finished past midnight, I think the official game time was three hours and eight minutes. Do you recall how much pressure you are under to submit your game report before the deadline for the Boston Globe? And those days, yeah. We had three editions.

Obviously the first two editions were, do we call running? I would be at the half time. I would submit something and then you would have at the end of the third quarter, a couple of paragraphs. And then you'd have what we call the lead. You top it off at the lead. That was going to have to carry you through the first. So for the final week,

people called right through the deadline was probably two o'clock. So basically, I probably had 45 minutes by the time I worked the locker rooms to write that story. No more than that. But I was used to that. That's the life that we let in those days. There's no, there's no issue. But I did. And I was proud of what I did. And you're right. Exactly. I

was proud of the game ended at 12.08. And I remember that specifically. I started at nine. It was on CBS. That was the reason I started at nine because television. Even then, 45 years ago, television dictated everything as it does today. But you're right. But it was a challenge. But I was, you can imagine not being invigorated. Now you have to meet the challenges or writer.

But I was, I was pumped. There's no question. Absolutely. But I'd love to know where you were sitting for that game. Oh, at the court side, home game, I would have been somewhere between two or three. I'd like to see the seats to the left of the bench. So, okay. And home we sat there on the road during the regular season and playoffs are different. I

used to want to sit near the visiting bench because I want to feel that and in here. It's part of the reason. The thing you had in those days is not just that you can see the game better from the court. You can hear it. And you have things to hear. But it was maybe a little bi-play referee, maybe. But anyway, it just to feel of

the lot of that puddle. Watching the game over the last couple of days, I was impressed to see that. With each quarter, the fans got closer and closer and closer to the court. At one point, did you have fans all around you? And what was their emotional state? And I know it was really hot in the garden that night too. It was hot because the Boston

Garden never had air conditioning. It closed in 1995 when they were at air conditioning. So it was hot. It was June and it was hot. Not as hot as the famous heat game in 1984 against the Lakers when it was 97 degrees Fahrenheit inside a tip off time. But it was hot. Funny. I don't remember specifically being worried too much about being over around that night.

But there was one night in 1974, two years earlier, game six against the box. I was worried. They were coming. I remember gathering up my typewriter and punching down. They're coming over to top. They're coming over to the press table. And then Kareem Abdul-Japar hit that hook from the 17 feet on the right hand baseline. The windy game for the box. And they weren't coming any

longer. That's the night I remember more of being afraid of the crowd. But the crowd was the factors. I thought we talked about the Richie power thing. And they were bothering the fans. So I said, I mean, wait to be angry. I don't have to be grudged at that anymore. There was an interesting moment. Towards the end of the regulation time where Paul Silas was actually

gesturing to call a timeout. I know Adams already. All right. Leave it at this. Do you want to maybe even take it over from here? There was a possibly missed time out there. Richie powers chose to ignore based on what he was saying in future years. I'm not sure I can retell the story without swearing a lot. But Silas grabs a rebound. And then he's like,

I'm not sure if he's going to get the end of regulation. Turns to Richie powers and signals for a timeout. And powers is looking right at him. And decides not to call the timeout because he didn't want the game to end that way. And it's something that stuck with Albie Enke. We mentioned this a little bit earlier. After the series, he had a commemorative championship ring

made up. And on the inside it was inscribed bleep you Richie powers. And he wore that for decades. I understand that he lost it. He left it in a bathroom somewhere, which is also an ideal punchline to the whole story. It was memorabilia. And if anybody can get their hands on that, boy, what a treasure. You're 100% correct in every aspect. And I'll add one little

detail that I'll tell me that story in full during my research for this story in 2001. He said the kicker he had was and some guy thinks he's got something valuable across $65. I love it. Adam, did you get to know it? Did you know Al and I? No, I really wish I had neck and neck and because I had an accident. He had stories from

playing all the way through coaching. Dr. Jim. What was the story of the day to being with the sons for so many years? One of my favorite people I ever encountered in all the years that covered the late. It was honest. Didn't know how to tell a lie. He was maybe the biggest Celtic hater ever. He hated all things Celtic. Like if he saw this song,

me today. Oh my God, he'd be out of his mind. And this is not a Celtic shirt. Anyway, Albie Enke tough player. He was a, he was a journeyman guard on a boy green. Had a long NBA career, including playing for the 1967 76ers. Back up guard got a ring tough guy. We like he was very loyal to the ABA coach, the Virginia Squires, which many

had. Travis got an and Doc some set. You know, went to the nets. He truly hated the Celtics. And do you remember when they had it? The all-star game used to have those old timers games. The legends comes. Well, he was coaching one of them. And Dave Cowell's we got to talk about him. Dave Cowell's was playing for one team and he pushed off to get

a rebound that got a big basket in this game. And after the game of Yonky was really. Nothing ever changes. He said, nothing ever changes. The Celtics get away with everything. You know, I'm sure his last words were bleep you richy cowers. I'll be willing to bet. I think you're probably right. He and my cloud work. You're characters. They were such opposites and temperament. Oh John

was a very gentle and very well dressed all the time. Totally. He was a very prim and proper guy. He was a gentleman in a, in what is not necessarily a gentleman's game. I was not a gentleman. I was a doctor. Worker. Take if you will. Some great stories here. Thank you for sharing them. And thank you Adam for sharing your memories as well of what

you remember growing up as a diehard fanics superfan. Earlier in the chat, you mentioned Glenn McDonald. Now in your 1976 recap of game five in the globe, you referenced another improbable Celtics hero. His nickname was big gene. Gene. I'm not sure how you pronounce his surname. He was a four time champion back in the early 60s. Do you recall? The elder for a significant portion of

a key game and held him in check. Your reference to him as an improbable Celtics hero. And I had to go back to basketball reference. Here's a four time champion with the Celtics from 1960s to 1963. I believe. And there was one more time. DARREN DAY had a tip in the beat the box and in the 87. And that was another one. Glenn McDonald was shocked

to get into the game. He was surprised. All service fell down. Cowards have thought out. Cyrus fell down out of spell out. The Dinosaur trick that out for them that we were getting down to. They needed to battle the tradition. And when Cyrus fell down, McDonald says he thought that obviously Steve conversky would be the son of a, he said, Glenn get in there and it

would space a one minute. He had six points. Could he one very difficult baseline turnaround and miss a layup that he should have made and committed the turnover all in the space of like 65 seconds. But those six points were vital points at that time. He came into the third overtime with fresh legs. Fairlier about how JoJo was so exhausted, he went out sitting on the

floor and running out of free throw. But Glenn McDonald will always remember he never did anything remotely comparable to that. And it's very developed to be grief. South Korea. I got a phone one other name of a auxiliary contributor that was without Jim R Jim R made two big three throws that put the South of South by six because the sons scored more points and West

ball almost stole the ball with the giving them a last chance to win the game. But Jim R and somebody was giving him the choke sign and Jim I said yeah well how you go and he made the two big three. He was another wonderful guy with back up. Sin. West ball open. It's two points again at 12 seconds. Here is Glenn McDonald two point basketball

game. Nelson. Yes it's on West ball. Get a hand on it. Art goes back five seconds. Right four three two one. It's going to be over. And look at the fair. It's here in the Boston gun. They battle three overtime. And finally it's over. But would you believe the end of that third overtime? I just had a look at the box scores last night and I've

got them in front of me here. Glenn McDonald had eight points on three or five from the field. He hit two clutch free throws in 30 minutes of game time. So you contrast that with Jo Jo White who played 60 minutes 33 points 15 of 29 from the field. He had six three pounds and nine assists. So no wonder he was seated in the back court.

He was the MVP in the series officially. I got to quickly tell you about Collins. I was speaking to Collins two days ago. I told him I was working on stuff. I was doing something about the game. And he said, well, don't mention that I fell down. I said, yeah, you fell down. But that's not the best part. Four different sons blocked one of your shots.

You didn't believe me. But I'm telling you. And I said, I know Alvin did. I think Audrey. Anyway, Audrey couldn't ever block one of my shots. I said, well, maybe from behind. But it's true. Adam four different guys. I have to go look at that. He didn't believe it, but it's true. I was in Chicago with my wife Lisa in early 2020. And we were at

a all-star breakfast, which he attended. And I saw him from a distance. And it took every ounce of my being not to go up and fawn over him and say, hello, and say what a big fan. I was of him retrospectively looking at his career. How was he these days, Bob? He's actually lives in Raymond, Maine, which is 15 miles northwest of Portland on a lake

in a beautiful little spot. He's terrific. And I am in good contact with him. I've been a friend with him since the day he walked in 1970. It is always available to me. And I may put it that way. We're friendly. And I always tell him it was my friend. I was a favorite guy I ever covered. I never covered a player that was a better

combination of skill and personality and intellectual curiosity fascinating guy. Yeah. Terrific to hear. Adam, is there anything you'd like to add to Bob or about the conversation here before we start to put a bow on things? No, this has just been a dream come true to talk to somebody who was actually there. Let alone a writer who was actually there who knows so much about the

game and knows so much about that series. That was so important to me growing up. And it remains important to me. I have a framed jersey of Phil Lumpkin on my wall. That's how deep I go. 7576. That's going deep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got a lot of time. You really got my attention. But the late great Phil Lumpkin is a piece of him is on

my wall, piece of his basketball. Social series for us to Jerry Clangelo was a very hospitable host to the media. It was a great fun time in Phoenix. We really was. I've been made friendly to Jerry this day. I saw him at Springfield just two weeks ago at the Hall of Fame in Connecticut. I was also a question of the first Diamondbacks game. Wow. This is

invited guests. Wow. You've seen a lot of growth in Phoenix. Anyway, Adam, it stands to test of time for me that game. This game deserves national attention. Show it to these people. 254 points without a three point shot. The pace of the game, the emotion of the game, the Boston Garden. You'll never see anything like that again. Right. The way it was. I think people would

really enjoy it. I really do. Somebody ought to consider NBA Network to really guide who that game. Oh, absolutely. Hopefully when the 50th anniversary comes around, I do make a big song and dance about it. Thank you, Bob. So much for making yourself available to talk about this momentous game. It's been a real trait to have you on again. This has been great. And thank you,

Bob. And thank you for all your work with the NBA over the years. You've given me so many great things to read that has really fired my imagination about the game and made me want to be a fan for decades to come. I would like to point out that the sons are one in one and triple overtime finals games. So they did even their record. And

I think it's really high. I think though that 11 years of not being in the playoffs has led to a lot of late coming interest in the sons. I think there are a lot of bandwagon fans there, and if they're more than welcome. The sons need every bit of support they can get. But I think old time, son's fans are very excited because this is a

team that was built through the grass. I'm asking you guys for the money. That's good. Well, I'm glad to hear that. Thanks again, Bob, for your time. It's been fantastic. That's been a real treat to have you on. Thank you, Adam, for revailing yourself as well. Awesome to catch up with you again. And hopefully we may have a chance to reconnect again and maybe do a

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