Caroline_Cory | Wormhole, Aliens, Frequency, Reality | Full Episode | Ep. 200

[Music] welcome to the pretty intense podcast on the show today is Caroline Corey she is an energy healer a teacher of spiritual studies and metaphysics as well as a film producer her latest movies were superhuman and a tear in the sky and you'll hear at the end she's working on a couple of very cool films as well right now but the conversation kind of went with

those two movies about basically superhuman just about like the power of your Consciousness the power of your mind like what you're able to create and what you're able to do understand about your reality as well as your inner reality and how your emotions guide you into healing these things and then into a tear in the sky which is about seeing things in space filming the sky

to see what they could find and they've got some amazing things like the classic things like you know a craft making u-turns and you know things that regular airplanes don't do a tear in the sky an opening and then a closing and and what that is and what what they found this is a really good one Caroline did A really lovely job and I'm grateful for

her because she helped me understand a couple of things that have been on my mind please enjoy this episode please hit subscribe it shows me that the content that I'm putting out there resonates with you and to keep making more of it and the bell for notifications when we have an episode come out as well as the comments those are fun to read so enjoy element

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about inner worldly stuff yes because it's like I get like reminded all the time how you know powerful our intentions are and even when even when like I said like I remembered to do it this morning just setting an intention for the day of how I want my day to go energetically and like without fail you can make that happen absolutely I mean I talk to

people like you and like spiritual people and people that you know can go into very good detail about how to do this and why to do this and I still forget so like I I think that the inner world is um such an indication as well of the outer world so was there some sort of impetus that led you on this path that was Guided by

your inner world first yeah actually it was and an outer experience that got me thinking so actually it's when I was a child I was five years old and I had this experience where I was just there and all of a sudden I kind of sensed the presence of like Angelic being whatever you want to call them and I realized that wait I could see them

feel them sense them but what is that about of course I'm five years old so it didn't really register as something unusual it was more like oh okay because I have no frame of reference right but it was later um as I grew up that I started thinking wait it's everybody has that or like how is that possible is everybody seeing hearing things or am I

crazy so so that experience got me asking the questions and and I realized that what I was talking about is consciousness it's it's something beyond what the average person can see or feel or understand and that's how I got into the field of Consciousness research science for years and years and years and then the more I got into it I started developing developing methodologies for meditation

the more I got into it the more I was like this is how it's supposed to be right it's from the inside out what were some of the big questions that started arising in the beginning for you and do you still have some of those same questions actually the first question was did I make this up in my criter experience your experience yeah because because um

how do I know this was real you know how do I know I didn't project some sort of vision that's not really that's just in my mind and so I thought that this was actually a very important first question because you're not just right away taking things for granted and kind of telling people like hey you know I'm hearing this and I'm seeing this or I

understand this and so when you question yourself I kind of had to put myself kind of on a test and I would be like okay well if what I saw is real then what's the validation so for example I would see someone and I would sense something that they never told me before and I would say um when you were seven did you have a drowning

experience or something you know because I would see that information and they'd be like yes how did you know so that's kind of how I started to test myself and collect validation and then the more I got validation sometimes that was on sometimes I was off most of the time I was on and then I said wait a minute if I'm on only once you know

how did that happen how is it possible even once that you know something that no one told you about you know before yeah and so that's kind of how testing myself got me to understand the mechanics of how it works how does it work yeah exactly and develop methodologies and you know all of that yeah what did you learn about how this works so the first

thing when I started to have validation after validation first of all the most important thing is I drop the doubt when you switch from is this real did I make this up you know how does it work you're just really just going in circles the minute you start to believe that what you're thinking what you're seeing is real then the whole mechanism starts to unfold you

see it's like a kind of like a switch so that's the first step is to believe that you are in fact creating your reality oh that's a bit of a difference though creating versus seeing yes well or coming into awareness of so get into that because those are two different things that's what was going through my mind is because when I have that kind of experience

or like I'm thinking about something in my life is starting to unfold in ways that I'm I know that I'm thinking about wanting and shoot some of it's unwanted too because we don't all think positive thoughts and I really think to myself am I in my own little mini Universe where I am creating everything is what is real and and is there is if I'm creating

all of it then you know where is the interplay and the challenge and the growth when all it is is just me practicing thinking good thoughts and you know staying in alignment with myself so please get into the Nuance difference between those two things about sort of seeing things hearing becoming sort of you know clear cognizant in all the ways all the Claires versus creating yeah

so the creating was actually the result the outcome of having these experiences why because when I started to kind of see things or hear things and then get validation that got me understanding that my consciousness has that sort of power so to speak I don't want to say like power like you're more powerful than other people but that ability let's say so if it does have

this ability then how is it working in my personal life you see what I mean so it's like it became as the conclusion that your Consciousness your mind is the one creating your reality so so I would say for example this is very kind of tangible example so okay so I found out you know I've saw something and it turned out to be real about this

person or that event or something right if then I would look at my life for example I'm in a relationship let's say that's not working so how come my Consciousness my mind can tap into that thing and boom get it and yet in my life for example in this area of my life I'm you know with the wrong person or I'm unhappy so that's kind of

how eventually it I made the switch or I started to understand that you are the one attracting or creating your day-to-day reality if that makes sense okay okay okay attracting kind of bridges the Gap right there yeah exactly exactly so then I would apply the way I was tapping into that information which by the way I didn't know as a child I didn't know how I

was getting the information I was just getting it but I'm kind of like a scientist like an engineer like I want to know how like just tell me how because I wanted to do it again and I also wanted to help others do it I did like I didn't want to just go out and say Hey you know I I did this or this is this

or whatever just like I'm channeling or something it wasn't interesting I wanted to understand if I did it once can I do it again if I did it two three four five times then there's some sort of mechanism can I do it consciously now you know with that meaning it didn't just come to me I am consciously wanting to know that information how would I do

it so that's how I kind of trained myself like I said first of all the meditation how is my mind currently working why is it working this way what's not working so I would kind of like test myself like I would try to discern between my conscious thoughts versus my subconscious thoughts versus other people's thoughts because believe it or not you can sense other people's thoughts

totally so on so forth and so then with training you start to narrow it down so to speak and you start to say wait okay I want my conscious intention my conscious thoughts but how do I get rid of everything else for example so that I can receive the guidance so that's why I did meditation after meditation after my and so I would then try different

things and I would say so people say they meditate and they're connected to the universe so is that what I should be doing so that I so that I would try this meditation that meditation and I realized that not all meditations are created equal meaning uh you may feel at peace you may feel calm with certain meditation but does that specific meditation get you to focus

your mind on something you want to create it's a different thing it's a so I would notice I would do one type of meditation just to calm myself or something but then I would do something different when I wanted to do telekinesis for example trying to move an object you see what I mean so that specificity I feel is what I was able to develop through

my you know the message that I've that I came up with after all these years and so the more specific you are the more the tools become refined first of all the more you understand yourself you you catch yourself wait where did this thought come from you know did I just hear something who am I channeling you know all of that eventually gets you to that

Clarity or specificity and then you start to see the patterns of course I attracted this person of course I cannot attract Financial abundance or what what have you because you start to recognize it's that part of your mind your Consciousness that attracted it your subconscious thoughts were a lot more powerful and more dominant than your conscious thought you're saying I want this and your subconscious mind

is saying I'm not good enough I'm a failure I'm not ready and so on so forth so it falls into something programming subconscious is so good at that programming I how did you become aware of that that seems like to become aware of your subconscious is seems very hard I don't feel like I've heard a lot about like becoming aware of that it's more about kind

of seeing the patterns in your life and in your reality um and you know I actually just um interviewed Teal Swan and the whole conversation was about ancestral healing and how critical it is right now to heal these negative patterns so that we can evolve so that we can so that we can use relationships as uh a launching point to um bring Humanity into a place

of more coherence so how do we like how can we do that do you dive into ancestral memory or healing and the patterns that are established um like where does that come from where do those negative subconscious patterns come from so when you look at a pattern in your life or something you know when we are not happy in one area of our life it's actually

our guidance system is sending a signal that says something's wrong it's like stop take a look at this what's going on so if you look at what your conscious mind is saying you're saying wait I want to be abundant I want to be happy you know so how come what I'm experiencing is the opposite so then you start to to assume first of all that another

part of you which is the subconscious is sending a different signal so you recognize this signal in many ways this part of the you know the the work the first thing is you notice what's manifesting for example somebody who's ignoring you for example or somebody who's cheating on you it's not about them if you turn it around and say what does it mean that is accepting

or allowing to be ignored that is accepting and or allowing to be cheated on or something or what is it in me that's feeling not worthy or of making a lot of money or what have you so then you start to recognize these patterns in you because it's a dynamic it's like you know it's it's it's a little bit more than the Law of Attraction but

even just that you know by looking at the patterns tells you what's in your subconscious mind so there's one method I mean this is a simple method that anybody can do but there are other methods as well is regardless of the person or the circumstance you through a little bit of meditation and a little bit of training not not that much you start to feel you

intend for the emotions associated with that pattern to come up because the emotions are part of your guidance system we think like you know we shouldn't feel angry or when we're angry we should like pretend that we're happy or like say affirmation I'm happy I'm happy or you know but actually you're not you know you're right so affirmations don't really work because you're kind of forcing

yourself to say something but that's not how you really really feel so I prefer to look at the emotion if I really feel bad what's that about I'm not gonna pretend and say I'm I feel amazing when I really deep inside me I feel bad so with this exercise you can through breathing and like I said intention you begin to feel what you know where you

are struggling so it's very powerful exercise because all kinds of stuff starts to come out like let's say oh my God oh my God tears or like something that seems irrelevant and this is where the past life and ancestral thing comes in so so all sorts of strange things start to come up let's say you're unhappy at work and all of a sudden you have feelings

of being abandoned and you're like what like what what does this have to do with that you know I'm trying to fix my career here exactly it you are tapping into subconscious experiences that happen to you that trigger a feeling of being abandoned which triggers the belief system see when you as a child when you feel abandoned not loved or whatever you come to a conclusion

oh my father left therefore I'm not good enough I'm abandoned my father left home because therefore I'm a failure I didn't I wasn't lovable enough for him to stick around does that make sense yeah the feelings get you to create belief systems right this book and the second you have a belief system a new belief system you didn't you didn't come in you you weren't born

saying I want to be abandoned you you were born saying give me love give me food so I can Thrive that's what you came to do so it was later when you're three or four or five that through these external experiences the feelings give you change your belief systems yeah they're like they're like they they they're like the start of a new code exactly and that's

the beginning of the pattern now at the age of five when your dad left you start you you are adding information to yourselves to your cellular memory you are saying yes I'm a young boy or girl or whatever or this and that I have many friends but also I'm not good enough to keep to to keep my Father's Love For example you add this information to

your cellular memory as a side note I want to say that your thoughts aren't abstract I mean of course they're abstract like you don't see them but it's an actual charge it's an actual Library like it's an actual frequency that's generated from your brain think about it like almost like a wave right like it's uh the thought it still carries information in the form of a

waveform exactly energy and Einstein even said once uh energy cannot be destroyed once created it can be transmuted cannot be destroyed so this is a form of energy this waves I'm a failure I'm not good enough you know is being produced right where do you think these waves go they go to other people and they latch onto them like glue and they bring them towards you

that but before they do that they go into yourselves yeah and so that's why when you do this exercise you normally you would feel these emotions in certain parts of your body some people feel it in the heart some people feel it in the livers people feel it in their legs why it's because this is where the weakness after years and years and years from the

age of four I started telling myself that I'm not good enough I'm a failure you know for years and years then I'm going to keep attracting you know experiences that match my new belief system so I'm gonna attract a girlfriend or a boyfriend who's who's gonna abandon me same pattern so on so forth eventually fast forward I'm going to attract a job do you see what

I mean you see how like you don't think there's a connection but there's a connection with everything by the time I'm 30 40 what have you I'm in a career right that I hate but I'm still there to pay the rent or or what have you and I am miserable you've abandoned yourself too that's why you're there because you abandon yourself and what you really want

so your job is now information about you I love that idea like you know you said when something happens ask what the question I ask is what's my part well you always play A Part even if it isn't your fault necessarily doesn't mean you didn't attract that situation to show you something exactly there's you always have a part that's the idea because you are the Creator

we don't want to have a party you'll say wait a minute I didn't attract my create my cancer I didn't create this so this is kind of where now we kind of to continue how how do you undo this and how do you get to the ancestral heart or even past life yeah so so now here comes a 30 year old person who's very unhappy with

work miserable every day has developed a few illnesses or a few struggle physical illnesses because the liver that you've been pouring those thoughts into I'm a failure I'm abandoned I'm not good enough these thoughts all went to your liver so by the time you're 30 you have problems with your liver or what have you right so you he comes to you and he says uh I

hate my job but I want I can't get out because I have to pay a rent and I have this physical problem if you know what I mean it's all connected so the idea with this type of training is as you sit with the emotions you're going to start to feel like I said strange emotions that will come up and you will feel them in your

liver so as you look at the cellular memory with this again if you're somebody's training you're helping you but even you you can do it with yourself you feel these emotion mostly in your liver so you start to focus on the liver and as if like you you visualize or you imagine that you have like a zoom you know like in a camera so you're looking

deeper and deeper let me feel let me sense what is in my liver that's triggering this problem and this huge sense of Abandonment and sadness and you're gonna start to feel and see things and if you are in this proper alignment you're probably going to see your dad leave the home at the age of four and so so then you when you see so that basically

is the root cause of your liver problem but also your job situation and so on so you see what I mean yeah sometimes it goes even before you were even born and this is where because you keep kind of zooming in you keep going into the cellular memory the cellular memory stores everything of your body that's why it's called memory and so if you keep going

deeper and deeper asking okay but why did I even attract this father to leave me at the age of four I came in wanting lava yeah why this father why this and that you keep going backwards and this is where you get into another life and another life and and an ancestral things and then you keep finding the root cause of what's happening to you in

this lifetime and the second you do it's no longer subconscious you bring it up to the surface and it's healed yeah I've found that too when you like I've done really really positive work with EMDR um and some somatic stuff on my own but it's like the the emotion is what you know marks the beginning of a code or the beginning beginning of any code a

new code and when there's a motion connected to it whether it's like healing something from a pattern or even manifesting something even going into meditation and thinking about something that I want if I really go into the energy of what it is how it would feel taste smell the reasons why and just like be there in it like I'm now anchored in that reality having happened

it's just a matter of time for this third dimensional reality to prove it out and show me but it's already happened and um so I've I've had both of those things totally work which is how I generated my first trip to Egypt which is how I have changed past memories it's all through emotion yes exactly that's what I was saying the emotions are your guidance system

yeah you know you can't you can't ignore you can't say I mean you can but it's a you know you can't say I'm happy when you really are not go to where you're not it doesn't mean you're gonna stay there it just means that it's it's just a guy it's just telling you start there yeah and then when you do this is kind of where you

go in and you undo it and then you can move into the vision so what you're saying is very fascinating because what you just explained and shared is means that you're creating from the future you are creating what you want from that place in the future and that's the most powerful way to create from the future especially if you the feeling is so powerful and it's

the real feeling so yeah meaning when you're there you're a hundred percent feeling like every inch of your body is I Cry Sometimes I laugh I smile I get hot my heart rate gets up like various different visceral expressions of what I'm going through exactly so that's the most powerful way but a lot of people can't do that because as or they think they're doing that

uh and again how do you know just look at the just look at the feeling follow the feeling follow the feeling so this is actually I do this exercise for all sorts of um mind matter thing as well so you set the intention you say I want um to create uh like you're saying a trip to Egypt or something um or something maybe more like your

whole life something like uh abundance let's say you know I'm I'm struggling check to you know paycheck to paycheck and so I just want to be free let's say financially free right so when you say that and in your case you were visualizing yourself you were putting yourself there you were seeing you were feeling what it would be like right but for a lot of people

you have to kind of first make sure that you are a hundred percent in that place if not there's all this is also an incredible way to bring the subconscious stuff up so for example I really see myself in a beautiful home and I have no Financial worries right that's your intention and I feel great I I feel I I want you know I'm abundant I'm

happy I'm doing all the things I want to do right you're saying that but deep inside there's still kind of a feeling doubt is this really really gonna like how is that gonna happen like I have a nine to five job I have three kids you know what I mean like so if you don't address those and clear those then you're not a hundred percent there

you see what I mean totally because you actually because it's not even like a it's this beautiful difference between believing and knowing like when you know you're just you're there but believing is still kind of like no I believe I can have money but I don't feel like I deserve that I I will abandon my family because if I get too rich they won't be able

to relate to me uh so I will abandon my family maybe or something like that if I if I if I have too much abundance because they spoke about it negatively exactly exactly so there's all these tools what we are talking about are these are tools what can you use to really really bring the truth because that that's what it's about the subconscious is holding on

to things you're not aware of that's why it's conscious what about um to kind of before we move on to you know outer space um which is so fun this is awesome we don't have to um uh well I think it's great no I really think that what we're kind of exploring is really in in parallel to your last two movies which are superhuman and a

tear in the sky which is about your inner World versus sort of outer space so I think it's kind of good to to bring those in together because I think this is something very tangible for people who are listening who might not kind of be able to grab on to the time it takes maybe even though I mean Jesus do you want the reality that you

want or not you know um but someone might not have the discipline that's a better word the discipline to do that so something that can kind of invoke it I think is this physical manifestation of issues that um draw you into needing to understand why it exists like for instance for me many times if there is something that I am not seeing and acknowledging and dealing

with I will get a physical manifestation in my body I'm not saying like cancer I'm saying like oh my God like my stomach hurts so bad like I can't like I don't even know what's going on right now like I will have it in my body before my mind knows it so what does someone do if they can feel discomfort dis-ease dysregulation in the body what's

the next step to going into that feeling in the body to uncover something that they need to know yeah and that's typical what you just said that's we wait for something to wake us up and again it doesn't have to be it could be like a migraine headache that won't go away I mean I'm not trying I'm not sure yeah exactly exactly so so I think

this is what actually happens to everyone and they can just follow what we were just talking about earlier if you just sit with it before just grabbing a pill you know because that's also the typical response you know like hey this is you know headache boom you know so just try to sit for a moment and just breathe like do a little bit of breathing and

yeah it's true like I used to do meditations for hours like I would sit for three hours and then when I started teaching I was like you know not everybody wants to do this or can do this or you know so so I started to simplify everything and charge the meditation with very powerful frequency so you know so now in seven minutes you get to where

you used to be able to get to in an hour or an hour and a half that's my kind of speed girl yeah exactly so it's all on my website by on my YouTube channel actually it's like they're free because people I want people to let go of the idea that it's so hard like you have to sit for hours and do yoga for three hours

I mean you know now if you know what you're doing which frequencies uh if you're you know again specific what is it that you're asking do you want to just calm your mind you want to just breathe a little bit or do you want to focus on what's wrong how do I fix it now so when you say frequencies are you talking about the meditations having

hurts frequencies laid into them yes but it's through my voice oh what yes yes we should talk about this a little bit because uh there's proven technology that it's out there now I'm not saying anything that's extraordinary everybody has a specific frequency signature through their voice it's kind of like a fingerprint there's there are no two voice signatures that are alike and so now with this

technology you can pick up the frequency of your voice to actually they use it in a medical field to see where you have imbalances they can see cancer markers they can see all kinds of without blood tests or anything just through your voice and then I work with some people who are developing even software because I told them I said can you do this for the

average person like you know so I want to know where I am to what is it that I'm needing right now I can just speak through this soft software yeah it will tell me like it would just reflect back to me the frequency you know the frequency the heart or this or the stomach or digestive system or things like that it can be very specific to

even tell you what vitamins you need even like like um imbalances basically minerals so if you understand that the frequency is being embedded in your voice and of course it's going to change every day because you are different every day then you can embed you could be in this incredible State of Consciousness again through training and if I am and in fact we did this experiment

if you don't mind me sharing yeah so so I was working with these guys actually in their lab and I said I want to know what my meditation actually does like I mean I know what it does to me but I want to like see it visually I want my biology you want markers markers I want metrics like I want data you know so we did

this experiment where we did it through the voice we were measuring the frequency of the voice but we also had uh the EEG you know okay cool picking up a skull cap that you know wears all the electrodes that shows the shows your sort of neuro neural activity right right exactly and so so I sat down uh so I started doing my the the meditation that

I call connecting to Source because I know that frequency I live that frequency like I said so I know where where it is but you know or they yeah it's like why I'll just say source and I'll get there well that was that's what I was trying to to Pro I mean to demonstrate so as I'm going through this exercise and I'm just meditating and saying

the second I would say Source or I would say I'm connecting to social whatever my meditation is I would go to that frequency because I have lived it I've done it I know where my Consciousness where my brain goes it's a very specific frequency so I would go there as I'm saying it the second I would say that my Alpha Waves were like just like jump

and my brain would start to become completely coherent specifically with certain words and certain tones and then by the end of it your your whole I in fact it's I think it's on my face but I'm not sure but there's those images of the brain where when you start and how you end everything is perfectly like coherent like the colors the organizations are symmetrical from left

to right yes where it's activated yes instead of like right and left and blah blah blah blob here a blob there yeah and what was fascinating is the second I would say the word it would go up because I was energetically bringing it through the voice it was the frequency so I was like boom this is proof that it's not just love that you get scientific

I love I love that because it's like you know I want to show that it's real yeah so then my friend she's doing some other meditation or something and her her chart was nice I mean it was it was different it was just nice and then she does my meditation she listens to mine and her brain does what mine did I've always said that the like

I think that truth holds a frequency I think the reason why you like someone or you resonate with the song or whatever that may be is because the more in truth they are the more you resonate with that frequency like there's a it's like a very it's like a feel-good frequency that seeps into you so and it just resonates like truth resonates with truth and so

your inner being your higher self wants more of that the more truth the better and so connecting with that with people whether they're on someone on TV or someone in your life or a relationship or a song that you listen to like you're resonating with the truth and you're saying you've got the science to prove that when you're connected energetically to a truth that you have

and an emotion and creating an emotion and energy with it you tap into a frequency and you transmit it exactly you broadcast it so that was incred that was like yes and so this is because people say oh I don't need this meditation I meditate or I yes but everybody can say Source everybody can say but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about a

specific frequency delivered in a certain way that then your brain recognizes and then it can find it on its own that's the idea but I think this was also we were talking about the average person you know having to like think that they need the discipline or the time you know it's more about really uh finding the right energy you know either it feels like it's

the right thing or it doesn't and when it when you do that you start to be more specific it's kind of like why do I want to connect with the trees and nature to understand who I am if I can connect directly with who I really am at the source as I was my true Essence do you see what I'm saying so you start to be

specific in your asking you know and the more specific you are the faster you it's like you're getting straight to the point so your meditation is fast you're asking is fast you're manifesting is fast because you're just saying because that's also what was happening when I was younger I was like sensing I was getting all kinds of guidance and I'm like wait like who's talking to

me like what like you know like is that me is this some ET you know is this some Angel like even it was benevolent but why like who and so that's why you start to at the end of the day I am not interested from hearing the truth from my neighbor I'm not saying you don't learn from people or you don't you're not helped by people

I'm saying the real truth of Who You Are is to go back to your true Essence who you are as you were originally created originally created as a pure Essence I'm not talking about past life we're talking about an original Essence and you do that through this meditation through this connection connecting to Source well you're leading us right into the next topic by saying connecting to

other beings so do you connect with other beings in that space are you able to do that do you have experiences of that yeah so so what happened when I was five those beings that I connected with I realized that it was kind of like we were the same stream of Consciousness it was like as if I was on this side of the veil in human

form and they were like my continuation like it kept going on and on and then I saw even though they were different beings meaning individual entities but it was the same stream of consciousness and then I kind of saw that's why it was very beautiful experience because I felt that that was home where I had come from so I kind of could follow it and see

where I could come from like from somewhere in the universe and then I realized it felt so familiar so good it was more like even as a five-year-old it was like oh like like it makes sense kind of like that it was that sort of like this is who I am this is what it is because the adults around me and they're like what is that

you know they were like bickering and like and so because of that experience I understood that the beings that are that came forth or whatever that I was connecting with were what I call my spirit family meaning it's like the same Consciousness and that was so important later I realized at the time it was like oh okay you know I'm five years old right it's like

oh you know but it was later when I started connecting with other beings they would come to me and I would get a download and because I'm very sensitive I can see the subtle energy I could see them I could sense them and they were very different than what I had experienced at the age of five and so and so then I would recognize and I

would be like why you know I don't need to get into that and so I feel that that experience at the age of five left that frequency signature in my brain so that I could recognize it so that I could go back to it does that make sense yeah so you had contrast so now it almost was like your Baseline awareness for information Beyond this sort

of beta cognizant world that we live in in 3D it now gave you the Baseline reference of like this is you so you know what what's not you exactly and I realized so then I would see other beings and communicate with other beings that's why I I wrote a lot about the different types of beings because I I started to see beings that most people don't

even talk about they're like very far away in the universe from other universes so but then like you were saying I could discern they were not this and I realized the most important message to of that experience is that yes it's okay to communicate with this being and that entity and this and that maybe because you're learning or maybe for you to know to not communicate

you know um but the bottom line is for you if you are here to know who you are is to be able to go back to this original blueprint this original frequency from where you have come and bring that forth like through your human aspect because that's so this means that you know people say Awakening or Enlightenment like what is that like what are you Awakening

to yeah you are Awakening to who you really are originally before this human body came and said oh I want to be a an author or a teacher or blah blah blah this is your day job this is like what people see on the outside but what is the energy what is the Consciousness that is broadcasting this information so that you can have 10 people talking

about abundance but the way you talk about abundance is coming from that original signature it's an authentic different pure and that's really the ultimate goal of being able to express that original Essence through everything that you do yeah so how does um how does your exploration into space and I've watched um a tear in the sky most of it and to be able to dive into

you know what else is out there and so what role does an extraterrestrial and knowing that there's other life out there what role does that play then why is that important yes so a lot of it has to do with me uh trying to bring the truth you know that it's more than hey you know the gray aliens are here to invade our planet and Destroy

and there is so much more of that is out there that people don't you know know about and so I use these films uh always try to bring science as well as much as possible yeah yeah I found it so fascinating how you triangulated to be able to get images of the same thing from different places so that I mean it's just like layering on the

the data so that you could create a compelling argument and proof exactly exactly so that's kind of what I'm trying to do with the films is to bring more information more truth more validation that okay we're not all crazy there's something here going on and so uh yeah so working with scientists and doing it this way uh is just part of the work yeah yeah what

is what are some of I mean maybe you can explain maybe you've learned more about what it was that you guys saw in the sky with the the area that was not sort of that looked like it was like the clouds parted and there was little particles or little dots and one appearing and then it kind of clouded over um but uh I know I'm getting

specific but that's specific to the movie what have you found well first of all we were there only five days and yes it's true we had an incredible I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment you know from Optical equipment to infrared to you know flare cameras which is like military grade uh to radiation I mean all sorts of things we were in three

locations like you said but still we are civilians right and in five days five days we captured like hundreds of hours of data so and very anomalous things so for example um you know things that kind of would show up like make a U-turn and leave things that would appear in the middle of the screen rotate and then like disappear yeah I mean this is all

you know again in the movie we didn't uh change anything this is all the raw footage that's in the movie so I feel like just from that we've accomplished so much because of what especially the government's telling us right now like we don't know we don't have data it's like okay but we're civilians we went out and we did that but the biggest thing is the

anything but then when we analyzed it we saw that literally it was some sort of a cloud it opens and closed and it revealed 50 to 100 uh reflective objects like actual objects in fact some of them pop out of the cloud we don't know what you know so at the same time it correlates with radar uh radar also picks up exactly some sort of blob

in that exact same spot uh right we have a a crazy radiation and Gamma array of like I think it was 43 or something insane the normal is like three and so now I'm working with hardcore scientists okay these aren't like scientists who are like yeah we believe in your weekend warrior scientists with cameras there's so in fact you could we couldn't even talk about Consciousness

like I mean it's very like nuts and bolt scientists they analyze the haircut at this thing it's like I mean it's a solar flare maybe it's this maybe it's this nothing is checking out we presented it to hundreds of scientists and experts at a conference no one has an explanation we said okay well let's try to keep getting more data maybe we can get satellite images

because we know exactly where it is we have the location the size everything and so we ask for satellite images you know from private organizations and governmental organizations either they didn't have them or they wouldn't give it to us so then we file a foia request we say okay if Freedom Freedom of Information Act request so they have to give us it's a governmental agency so

they come back and they say we are you know the geospatial agency we collect all the satellite images we do have uh the images of those particular coordinates the time space uh that you're mentioning however we can't give them to you because they're exempt meaning classified yeah it's not really Freedom of Information right freedom of chosen information exactly but what does that tell you well it's

like pleading the fifth in a in a case you know pleading the fifth is about the same as confessing yeah exactly so so that so it was like okay so then we did capture something extraordinary so what do you call something that opens and closes and then has like a bunch of actual objects we were able to measure them that pop out of it and I

mean the first word that came to mind when I was watching and I was like it's like a portal you know of course and then you guys said maybe a black hole or a wormhole you said a wormhole I mean yeah I mean if it opens and closes it feels almost like some kind of Wormhole portal that is like oh this is another galaxy of some

sort and these are all stars in it but the question is why did it open and also not only that these aren't stars because the the radar doesn't pick up on radiation or light it picks up on objects like reflective objects so these were actual objects also reflective it can it can pick up on that on reflective versus reflecting you yes the same same as okay

so a sun but a sun is like the sun is like projecting or like reflecting Sun like if it's a craft and a light's hitting it that feels like reflecting yeah same thing but my point is these were objects like it wasn't because if if it was let's say a burst of radiation let's say then it would be everywhere it would be on the whole frame

right because we were taking a picture so if it's radiation it's not going to be like in this one spot yeah and it's not a sun either it's not a star because it wouldn't do that and you see what it's not light because it was reflective object so that's what I'm saying what is it yeah and why did it yeah why did it open what came

in or what went out exactly and so and after it closes you literally see that in the movie you see like a couple of them actually pop out it's almost like because they appear it's like within that little space it's like a dot just appears so it's almost like something left yeah possible yeah because they're like oh let's open this portal up and then go back

in close it up back to some Galaxy we've not yet discovered or know about exactly wow so that's like to me that was like a huge what oh I mean I'm fascinated since I was a kid I I looked up to the stars and I would just think to myself it goes on forever yeah but what's at the end of for nothing it's goes on forever

do you have a theory on like Multiverse like simulation um like do you have a theory on on how this universe or Beyond materializes it's definitely a Multiverse I mean I think there's an infinite number of universes but not in the way people think like you know how people think that oh there's another one of you in another Universe doing the same thing like a parallel

universe to me that doesn't make any sense because it would be like what's the point why would you have a bunch of you doing the same thing so you know I mean creation is purposeful the idea is there's one of you doing this here but there's another aspect of you could be doing something else so but anyway for me the universal organization is more um planetary

systems within Galactic systems within universes and each universe is within multiverses so it's it's it's more of a um of a fractal existence and then you see the geometry you see perfect geometry you see the harmonics between uh the macro and the micro and so but going to question is this a simulation so it's interesting because I don't see it at all as a simulation like

it's a computer uh generated thing and it's all fake however I feel we are inside a sort of a network a network of information which creates this particular reality that is both that is part of a larger uh I don't think it's it's a it's I think it's more of a divine order that's my take on it there's a larger Universal intelligence that is guiding this

now there may be some extraterrestrial manipulating you know the reality that we exist in but they're not the creators this is not where it ends there's a much larger Universal organization that is divinely orchestrated because there's too much evidence of divine intelligence you know it's too much and so it's at the same time that a lot of it is pre uh directed like it's almost like

you have a prenatal contract to come in here and carry out this contract and at the same time you are creating it as you go along meaning you you create your reality otherwise we'd just be robots we'll just be machines like it wouldn't matter what happens to you because oh it's predestined it's already part of the computer the simulation so what's the point why should I

intend uh to to have a house or to do this if it's if it's pre-ordained it does feel like there to me like there's a continuation of your energy yes and it's it's a continuation now there's lives right so it looks like it ends but it's not that's just a fractal nature of it like there's like the fractal of like your choices within your life and

then there's the larger fractal nature of like lives yes maybe there's the next fractal nature of entities in some kind of evolution and then beyond that you know right that's how it feels to me versus yeah I mean there's there's a lot of evidence of some level of simulation Theory just because patterns are so prevalent like even when we look into ancient civilizations and the way

that they're able to use the Stars perfectly in Geometry if we're a pattern patterns make patterns so the fact that we can all fit into these sort of archetypes and various different things feels very like zeros and ones yes but think about this if that's the case then what's the point of your Incarnation what's the point if it if it's already kind of a simulation it

mean it tell it's going to tell you where you're going because that's what a parent pattern does and what's the point would just continue just because it's got It's like you kick the ball down the hill and it's just rolling right it's just happening but why did the pattern begin in the first place yeah and I like what you said how there's different layers or levels

of fractals but then you got to the beings and then what's beyond that right I don't know you see what I mean so to me there is a Divine orchestration of the much much much larger picture otherwise would be gone by now I mean if we were just you know um managed by a group of like you know strange entities aliens or something it's like you

know it it it doesn't uh make sense when you see so much organization on a much higher scale like there is a Divine intelligence that's embedded in everything yeah even in those beings that are trying to manipulate whatever yeah because they're part of the Divine intelligence so then what's the point of all this well so I feel that creation or existence of the universe of who

we are is the actual DNA of existence is to thrive you know baby when you're born you don't say oh I want to kill myself you're born you're like hey here I am you know give me food I want I'm here to grow I'm here to love I'm here to be loved that's what the baby is right so that's just that is a witness if you

will is is a testimony I mean of what creation is you know an intelligent being is an example of how the universe is thriving here's another part of creation that wants to expand explore Grow Up evolve so on and so forth so that's the nature of the universe and that's the purpose of the universe so anything that goes against it meaning if you are self-destructive or

distracting other people you know infringing on people's free will or what have you you're kind of going against the universal order which is to continuously Thrive give you the ability to create as you wish as long as you continue allowing the universe to thrive through you through your creation forever and ever so that's that's kind of the concept of Good and Evil like how do you

know what's good and bad and who's to decide that you know and why is killing people like a criminal actor you know what I mean like that's because it's very simple anything that's going against the principle of thriving and evolving yeah it feels like when you come up against a pattern yeah exactly and so if you ignore it you're going against something trying to ask you

to grow and evolve exactly like when you get through this you'll be happier you'll be in more abundance you'll be more joyful you'll be more peaceful but you keep saying no and if you're going against the point of this reality would that you need to say yes to exactly exactly and so that's that's why it's actually pretty simple we're the ones that complicate things it's very

it's actually pretty simple anything that allows you to thrive to be who you are to continue evolving the universe through your creation you decide then you're in the flow and that's why the universe will support you it will like just be in constant flow it is like crazy I was uh actually it was a funny funny example I was on vacation last weekend and I was

like the flight home it was in in Mexico and Cabo and it was beautiful beach and golf and it was awesome and I'm like man I wish there was another direct flight home there was only a 1pm direct flight home it'd be nice if there was like a four or five o'clock direct flight home that way we could fully relax and play around a golf and

like have a whole Sunday on the way to the airport I told the driver turn around the flight got delayed till 5 15. I was and it was like 11 30. I was like turn around and I was like you know oh my God thank you like the universe delivers to you in ways that you couldn't create on your own exactly it's bigger it's bigger it's

way bigger than you like I couldn't have got American Airlines to delay the flight by four and a half hours I couldn't have that's what I'm saying so when you are in that flow meaning I'm here to thrive I'm here to give love I'm here to receive love that's like the baby just look at the baby I'm here to take I want food because I need

to grow I want I want to take care of me and my body so so to you're here to nourish yourself to allow yourself to grow and express yourself just like the baby I want to laugh I want to have my own personality or whatever you know then you are in the flow and then everything when you start saying no blah blah blah you know or

let me go and teach you what belief system you should have what God you know you're supposed to it's like what like no you know so so so it's actually like I said it's quite simple I mean it's quite simple as a principle but in Practical you know you know people are harder to execute yeah right now because of the number of years and generations of

being programmed yeah yeah wow well thank you so much you have like such a it's rare to come across people that are able to take complicated Concepts and make them comprehensive and you do a really good job of that thank you so much and what you're doing is so amazing so I'm I so appreciate your work and I appreciate this opportunity I hope we were able

to spread some love well here's the thing that is true and I'm so glad that we had the conversation and you were able to articulate and really help me comprehend this concept but this will create change and the frequency because the frequency that we're in is in our truth and our curiosity and we're emitting a certain frequency right now that even if if people just listen

they get something from it even if they don't understand it's going in it's resonating on some level within you I really really believe that a hundred percent that's how energy works yeah and that's how you know you just have to allow the frequencies to be embedded and you know just uh follow the flow getting it all to come online yes absolutely wonderful job thank you well

thank you Caroline that was really wonderful and um are you making another movie I feel like you just keep making films is there one on the on the way yeah I have two actually uh well this one of them is actually continuing where we left off with tear in the sky because we um you know we found this Wormhole so the next one is on wormholes

in a whole new way it's not just UFOs it's it's very very cool it's about the structure of the universe and stuff and then I'm doing another one that's a completely different subject I don't know if I want to bring it up because it's actually about um child trafficking so that's a big deal though that is a the more I think it's becoming a pretty strong

awareness within our reality that this is rampant yes exactly so I'm shocked with the things that I've discovered and I'm working with someone incredible who actually conducted 70 rescue missions rescued hundreds of children so this is very real and it's in my like it's not hearsay so um it just kind of I felt like I needed to well it's it's I mean it's just it's so

dark yeah I mean I mean I think the Epstein stuff kind of brought some of it to light a little bit just about how kind of dark and gross these this sort of like there's another world of people that operate in these spaces and you know whether it's for weird fetishes or power or shoot I don't know if like adrenal Chrome is a real thing with

child's blood and things like that or um if it's just um human beings being hijacked by other entities and they're doing such awful things I don't really I mean obviously I I'm just rambling off a bunch of things but basically I can't comprehend how people can do these things they don't feel very human to me I feel like everybody is good they have bad programming yes

but maybe there are some people that go beyond that maybe they're not really that human maybe they're reptilian maybe they're I don't know I don't know do you get into all that stuff in the film a little bit or actually um the only way I could deal with this is to focus on the solution because there's another horrible um you know data is that the more

they rescued the more they would find networks and stuff so it's really about um the level of Consciousness that humanity is at and so in the film and in the work that I'm doing in that whole area we are bringing a lot of tools to change and like a lot of resources and things that people can do to help themselves after the fact that also to

avoid that to try to really heal what can get a human to even think that way so we're going back to the to the root cause of the trauma even those perpetrators are are also have also been violated and you know right as well right what gets them to do something like that yeah oh wow wow so hopefully it'll be more you know hopeful but the

subject is very painful yeah no it's no different than when we go into aspects within ourselves that are not beautiful and not good and they need healing and they need shifting it's like it's not so good at first but you know bringing it to light helps to create the Alchemy needed exactly absolutely so yeah yeah all right well thanks Caroline it's beautiful to talk to you

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