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you said that you know there's an idea that men and women are equal which you're implying that they're not they're different there's a difference between equality and difference Fair difference is fair anybody watching this right now knows that men and women are we look completely different right men and women look completely different we have different skill sets men have men have like a third more upper

body strength than women have right there's there's a reason why men go to war yeah there's a reason why you know men go to war there's a reason why we when a transgender male competes in a female sport he destroys and dominates with women right like men and women are different not fair but but fairness that's interesting that you brought that up now fairness is usually

career everybody would be on the podium but no there's one through twenty on the grid right that's how it works that's that's how the competition ends at the finish line but today fairness is basically uh you know it's infused in the fabric of society even in elementary schools because all children are given a participation trophy there's no first place anymore in many sports I I mean

I agree and that's all like there's a winner and there's a loser you better learn the lesson when you're six instead of when you're 36 and you're you know miserable and your life's going nowhere because you have no coping skills like right learn that lesson young um but I think that it's just getting stuck on that equal word like you're we are we're equal but different

is that what you could agree to I would I would agree with that men and women are equal in society but we're different exactly and in a relationship too equal but different yeah I'm still going to be the one that's called upon to defend you in a relationship when the bad guy breaks in the house in the middle of the night and the window smashes on

the floor and you hear a bang I'm not going to Elbow you and say okay well you get this one because I got the last one I'm I'm the one that's going to jump out of bed and put myself In Harm's Way so I don't think that they're Fair inherently in the way that you're describing like you know um you know men and women are equal

and and fair and all that sort of stuff it's like no we're different and that's okay I don't know that I want to apply equality or fairness to a relationship because it doesn't make sense to me I wouldn't expect a woman to stand close to the road I wouldn't expect a woman to jump in front of somebody that was trying to rob us right right right

right right but I I I know but I think you're thinking that fair meaning like it's Tit for Tat it's all you're saying equal is yeah it's like the whole equality thing like I don't think they were equal I think that we're different and that's okay but equal and importance yes absolutely or do you think that men get a little bit ahead because they're the ones

that ultimately will be the one that has to risk their life let's say no Ben see men are the Disposable sex women are the protected sex that's why when the ship goes down it's always Women and Children First I mean it's always been that way men have always been disposable throughout society and women have always been protected if if if there is Wars and by the

way we live in one of the most peaceful times you know in human history but if there's a war and two warring tribes you know get together who gets killed off all the men and when the dominating side wins any children or or teens that weren't either um brought into their armies or brought into slavery were killed off that were male but who was protected the

women and that that's where the notion of War Brides comes from because I mean like even as far back as World War II War Brides were still very very common when the Germans invaded France and Normandy and uh Holland and you know like all the Dutch people sort of thing all of the women that complied and entered the frame of the German soldiers were mistreated at

the end of the war they were brought out into town squares and their heads were shaved and they were shamed for sleeping with the German soldiers and abandoning their you know their families and their husbands and things like that so women have always been protected and brought into the winner sort of circle and that's why women are very adaptive in society that's why see women don't

understand this but men have a very hard time with breakups right we don't get it it's like you know you know we just want to get an answer and if you get an answer then and you're deemed a stalker but if but if a woman you know gets dumped then she wants endless meetings there's emails there's text messages she needs closure all this sort of thing

like women are generally a lot more adaptive and they can move on very quicker from relationship to relationship and I think that's because of the war bride Dynamic where throughout history they've been conditioned to adapt to new circumstances and environments because if they didn't they would die agree with that it's true though I think it's because women face their feelings and emotions because they can't help

it it's part of our nature and that men traditionally in a breakup usually go out and start dating someone right away or they start they start sleeping with other people they distract themselves and women go through the emotions and They Mourn and they cry and they they're miserable and and then they they work through it where a man's is sort of deferred or delayed or pushed

down and that never works either what about the perspective of vulnerability like there's such a such a movement and culture for men to get more vulnerable no I'm gonna guess you think that's some right there yeah it might have been told to be more more vulnerable haven't they how does it sit with you and your girlfriends though when a guy you know turns into a total

I think there's definitely a fine line there's a fine line between a and a man that owns his feelings yeah I think what you just defined is that women like men that just get it you know that like you don't want to tell guys how to solve that problem you don't want to solve the problems for like women aren't generally King makers they want to be

with a king you know what I mean like they want to be with a guy that's that's got it figured out so when it comes to that feeling emotions or being vulnerable your dog dies be emotional you know you lose your parents fine be emotional it's required you have to grieve through that part Brenda from accounting was mean to you today you don't want to hear

about it I mean personally for my friends if Brenda at accounting was mad mean to one of my girlfriends I'd be like get over it but most women would want to have a big conversation about that let's get together we'll pour some wine let's bust out the cheese get The Chicory board going let's you know let's talk about Brenda and what a she is sort of

thing what about just being her you heard absolutely but but I mean the point that we're making about this about this concept is that women want men to just get it and it's okay to be vulnerable in certain circumstances it's okay to cry in certain circumstances that are warranted but most men get emotional and get vulnerable and cry over the littlest things which turn women off

you know men don't understand this that they want women want men that just get it that are competent that can solve problems that can get things done that can make it rain they don't want to deal with a crybaby you know one of the things you hear a lot of women say and um you know after I got divorced I was dating a lot of divorced

women as well because I was you know looking at women around my stage same age group and one of the questions I was always asking so why did you get divorced so what happened and I heard a lot of oh you know he was a big baby you couldn't keep a job down he was such a he wasn't a man he was a big beta you

know big cry baby you know like all of these things and it's like oh that's interesting but who was the guy that you marry worried right like you know did something change and one of the things that happens to men in long-term relationships I've noticed is it's the betaization through a thousand concessions you see what I'm saying so it starts with something like hey Rich you

know don't brush your teeth over there you're going to get toothpaste on the carpet then it goes to make sure you put the white socks in the white hamper and the black socks and the black camper then it goes that one just makes sense let's go vegan together and then it's and then it continues to go concession after concession after concession sure sure and the and

the thing is is that women truthfully they don't want men to make that many concessions I understand the organized part like I understand you know the laundry thing and all that sort of stuff but as soon as you start stamping everything yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and then you give her the stamp and she starts stamping everything yes her interest in that

guy declines dramatically agreed because here's the deal he doesn't know who the he is right and you why is it like a girl to not know who the she is either like don't you want a girl to contest with every now and again don't you want a little bit of a challenge there's a perfect ratio of disagreements that need to happen in a relationship and you

know I don't know what your thoughts are in Jordan Peterson but he'll talk about that too you don't want it easy you want some level of challenge that is required for the relationship to be strong you don't want to push over do you do you have a pushover girl I I don't want to come home to a disagreeable bossy woman I want to come home to

a loving woman of course a woman wants a loving man but you don't you you can't tell me that you do you want a woman to make a thousand concessions for you and that you'd still respect her I would for what because she's not a man and women are different remember that you know we talked about that before men and women are different just because you

want see I think the great lie that a lot of women have subscribed to when they're drunk on this Kool-Aid is they've been told to behave like men oh you have to be somewhat disagreeable you have like there's a certain ratio because Jordan Peterson that's not true that's not true is it not true that's just called autonomy is it though yeah absolutely because no two people

are identical right but it's not like we could all just agree on everything so just like you're gonna know who you are and I would know who I was like you're not always going to agree so you can respectfully disagree or you can have the discussion change your mind perhaps I actually like part of doing this interview is I was hoping you could change my mind

on some things because I think because then I know I've learned something because I'm I'm open-minded that's that's like the fascination is that cool teach me something new but I know I have my convictions about myself I know who I am and I'm not just going to bend over in every single category so a man can feel good about himself or so he cannot be challenged

yeah but believe it or not it's he's not he's not trying to feel good about himself by not arguing with you he just doesn't want to argue with you he just wants peace in his life right now I get that not many men are competent and deserve a peaceful life I understand that there's a lot of losers out there a lot of weak men that get

challenged by women for a reason I get it I fully understand that but a guy like me I I don't want a confrontational woman in my life right it's it's not needed and it's unnecessary and I'm I'm competent enough and I'm successful enough and influential enough that I don't need to put up with that sort of thing so while I get that a lot of women

have told have been told to be strong and independent and decisive and you know to some agree like women I think today are more disagreeable than they ever have been in history yeah but I don't think that it's because we're being told to it's because we are it's because people are getting more confident with who they are well it's because women don't need men anymore nobody

needs anybody don't they do they I don't know that's a great question if you like this clip and you want to hear the whole episode click at the bottom of your screen