Mystery Of The Elongated Skulls: In Conversation With Jonny Enoch

thank you since ancient times there have been venerated rulers depicted as having elongated heads some examples include the Egyptian god Osiris who is a giant with an elongated head and then in the 18th dynasty of Egypt we find the king akhnaten or amenhotep IV when you look in the Cairo Museum you see that not only is he depicted with an elongated head but so is his

entire family the same is true in ancient Babylonia when we learn of the stories of Dagon Nimrod oroanni's some call him sidon because he taught the people about agriculture but we get this idea of this God who's wearing a fish hat or an elongated head and he has these fish scales because he was part of a seafaring people comes to the shore of a very primitive

people and teaches them about how to make fires and have a society and build them up from the ground up after the cataclysms these were Extraordinary People we find the legends of them all over the world and to a greater degree we have also seen that this is what has created what we call artificial head binding or cranial deformation of primitive cultures trying to imitate what

these more advanced civilizations were teaching them so to find out more about this I asked my very good friend Brian Forster to come on the show he and I have traveled around the world and done conferences together we've been to Egypt together we've been up to Peru and Bolivia and all those places you know tiwanaku Pumapunku Lake Titicaca and I have seen his work and the

incredible evidence that he has examined from all different sorts of scientific angles and I want to talk about that with him today but first I want to tell you all about these amazing Oregon pyramids and you can get them at light the light pyramids they're made by our very dear friend of the show Michelle Hood I love the way that they make the energy and the

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and you can use the coupon code enoch20 at checkout to save 20 percent so Brian I want to jump right into the subject with you because we know that there are these other class of hominids that I believe in your testing they have been called Homo sapiens sapiens parakis they're a totally different class of hominids and I want to get into that with you today but

how can we tell the difference between those folks that you're examining up in parakas that we'll just call those the real elongated skulls alongside the the ones with cranial deformation what's the the easiest differences to tell in their characteristics the ones that are the product or cranial deformation there's no difference in the volume cranial volume is compared to a normal Homo Sapien sapiens but with the

Caracas ones The Originals their cranial volume is as much as 25 percent larger than normal and I have an example I can show you this is actually a cast of a probably seven-year-old child and the important thing to show is the lack of the sagittal suture you can see all Homo sapiens sapiens have a suture that goes across this way and connects with the occipital bone

at the back and this one doesn't have that at all there's no sign that it was ever there and so that indicates to us that this is not Homo sapiens sapiens it also has these also has these two little holes in the back of the head which were for blood and nerve flow so that also you do not find in uh Homo sapiens sapiens in general

that's incredible now Brian when we look at the size of these skulls what's really fascinating with this is that they have these enormous heads and as we mentioned at the beginning of the show there all these stories that we have of these ancient venerated rulers who had elongated skulls whether we were talking about the depictions of Osiris or we talk about Dagon who had the fish

hat or the miter or we talked about akhnatin it appears that these beings oh it's hey it's uh it's one of your puppies what's his name when we look at these ancient venerated rulers that they all seem to have some special ability attached to them whether it was Osiris whether it was Dagon whether it was how akhnaten was depicting himself the question I want to ask

is do you think that they had extraordinary abilities due to the size of their brains that do you think that they could have had other capabilities that regular uh Homo sapiens sapiens don't have um I would think so because when you have 25 larger cranial volume it has to be for something some people have speculated that the skulls were larger but the brains were the same

size but I've seen the insights of the original Caracas skulls and you can see where all of the veins um would actually make contact to the interior of the skull and therefore that tells you that the brain was the same size as the volume internal volume of the skull so in the case of Osiris of course we have these depictions of him shown as being green

to have had elongated skulls not like the paracas ones where it's vertical elongations it's more of a horizontal elongation but that would it because of the Precision of the sculptures that would indicate that it had to have been based on something or someone not simply an artistic portrayal or fictionalization of something well that's really incredible I remember walking through Tannis with you when we were there

and you said something that really stuck with me you said hey look at that uh that statue over there that we see of Osiris and you said don't you think it's interesting that he's depicted as a giant with an elongated skull what do you think of the idea that these folks with elongated skulls might not have been from here that they evolved from elsewhere with a

different type of gravity and a different type of birthing due to the way that their heads are shaped well there is of course a connection between Sirius and ancient Egypt so it could be that Osiris is based on someone who came from the area of uh of the stars of you know the serious uh Stars quite possibly I'm open you know I don't have evidence for

that but I'm open to the idea because of course Sirius and Osiris are very closely uh related in terms of letters so I think it is a possibility of course we do have the time called um Zeb Tepe or the first time in ancient Egypt which describes ancient civilization that existed way before any aspect of the dynastic people so that could be depicting the time of

when the gods walked on Earth with with people and that could represent could have been represented by Osiris and Isis being these first people who came quite possibly from somewhere else rather than our planet I like that connection that you're making right there and when we look at that name Osiris this is something that I I've often heard the connection that we found between in Osiris

and Sirius Jordan Maxwell used to say that there was a connection to why we call each other sir and as a gentlemanly title and that came from sire that went back to Osiris and it was actually I believe Dio Doris in the biblioteca historica on 50 BCE that he makes a direct connection to the ancient name of Osiris to sirius and we find that connection right

there and normally we say hey there's an Orion connection but I think that that's fascinating that you'd put those together when we go back and look at these folks there's all kinds of conspiracies about them of course and I'm not sure if you're familiar too much about what Karen Hughes had said I believe she was associated with some of the the world Banks and she had

come out and said that there was another group of these folks with these elongated heads that she felt were running the planet and they were actually over at the Vatican did you ever see her talking about that oh very much so that was a few at least three years ago I was actually in contact with her for a short period of time in regards to that

that's her you know that's her Theory or her speculation I don't know she seems to have disappeared off the off the internet since then so I don't know if uh if she's been harassed or what happened to her but uh that became quite a prominent Theory a few years ago uh absolutely it did and you know what's interesting is when we look at Egypt as I

I know you've looked all over the world at this and and I'm I think everyone would agree when they look at your work that you are the greatest expert in this area and you have the right background for it you know from coming from a biology background you're a scientist you you left everything you moved to paracas you've been looking at this all your life you've

been involved in genetic testing for this you take it very seriously and I know you've looked at where this is all over the world from the northern Black Sea Crimea Scandinavia the stuff you've said where you found the traces of these elongated skulls the authentic ones that is not just the cranial deformation versions but oftentimes we've speculated that there must have been these folks that were

in Egypt but according to you in the past uh and others I've talked to they said well publicly we have nothing on record to say that we have ever found any uh of these elongated skulls in Egypt and I I heard something recently that actually came from Steve Mara who I know you're familiar with the folks over at uh Zohar entertainment the UK he has a

friend that works at the BBC and they were in Egypt in in some of these tombs that they were going to unearth the new Tomb and they were looking in there and apparently they were going to do this big BBC uh expose on what they were finding and it was going to be a big special but apparently that all got shut down and it went Hush

Hush after they had discovered some elongated skulls have you ever heard of anything like that in Egypt being suppressed oh definitely I think there are photographs in the Aswan Museum that show depictions of people with elongated heads from very early in the 20th century like very old photographs of that um so I know Yusuf awion was the one who first showed that to me of evidence

of um you know the presence of elongated skull beings before dynastic times so you know there is some Credence to that that theory but of course Egypt is one of the countries where so much information has been distorted or covered up by authorities because it's they don't think that um the world is ready to hear about it of course you know and of course all of

the places that we've not been allowed to visit that recently have been opened up like the Osiris shaft and places so there's you know I'm hoping that when they open the new Museum the grand Egyptian museum this you know this coming year I hope that they will have some items on display from their Subterranean vaults at the Cairo Museum that will be of of interest to

those of us who are looking for uh so-called alternative origins of the Egyptian people well they've been saying that forever haven't they that they're going to open up gem uh they will be great if they do it this year and not just have a parade that an opening follows the parade uh but it it is going to be amazing when they open it up I I

wanted to bring it back a little bit to what you were just saying there you know when we talk about these elongated headed progenitors uh and you know how they could be associated with our Origins uh going back into the story if we look at the story of Dagon Nimrod or oh Annie's who came to the Primitive people of Babylonia and he's depicted as you know

with this fish hat or the the miter like the pope wears and he comes to the Primitive people after the cataclysm and he teaches them about agriculture and how to have a civilization the same is true over in Egypt you know we talk about Osiris and what's on the edfu story but when we think of these guys as they're traveling around the world whether they were

missionaries after the cataclysms or they were just on vacation to certain parts of the world that we find there remains is it possible that when we look at the stories where you live the stories of viricocha amaroo and all these guys that we have this story going over to Mexico which I know you've talked about a lot you've done tours to Mexico and you've covered all

these parts and your work and your books uh but we look at the Yucatan and all that do we find a connection with uh Quetzalcoatl uh or cuckoo con because we have them artificially binding their heads over there is there a connection that comes from Peru to there I think so because if you follow What's called the path of iracoja that goes from the southeast into

um into Bolivia and then towards the Northwest going through all of the megalithic sites that we find like Machu Picchu and sexy woman and aliente tombow then if you keep following that line it reaches the Peru Ecuador border and then when you follow it from there because it said that uh you know the the Vera coaches taught the people and then left um if you keep

following that line it does wind up in Mexico and it goes through Yucatan and it goes through I believe quite close to Mexico City so those are the locations where you find um and queso cowadels right it could very well be that the individuals who uh were called the the miracle China the viricochan when they left Peru they actually wound up and possibly changed their names

to accommodate the local cultures in Mexico the Mexico area that's incredible so there's there's a cross-pollination of cultures and it's rather fascinating that here we have these elongated heads depicted but it's almost like our historians are archaeologists our academics have just shunned it and when we look at the evidence up to this point they they've tried to dismiss it have you felt any pushback from Academia

uh or any of these areas when you've taken this testing forward um the DNA testing yeah well it's been completely ignored by Academia we had um the person who was in charge of the DNA testing was a Peruvian archaeologist because that was part of the negotiation we had we had to have a proven archaeologists in charge of the of the study so he was the first

person to get the actual results that showed a connection with the Black Sea area of Eurasia not with indigenous people of the Americas and automatically he simply he refused or actually I waited for a month after he got the results and contacted him or actually physically went to his office to uh to talk to him and he simply said the results don't match what I expected

because he of course expected it all to match indigenous peruvians and then after that we asked if we could do more DNA testing based on the collections of the Peruvian government he said absolutely not because everything every sample you took was contaminated obviously which it wasn't so that makes perfect sense Yeah so basically that that became the end of the DNA study um I've made of

course a number of videos and written some books with the DNA results which are open to the uh the public to look at and that's my audience my audience is not Academia my audience is the inhabitants of planet Earth I love that that you brought this evidence and your research for for everyone when we look at the evidence for this okay let's just take a look

at the typical Theory we'd find for migrations even when we look at North America and uh it's these two continents we look at the Bering land bridge the bearing land straight uh what what is the difference really that we find within the regular DNA that we'd find let's say we break down the Homo Sapien sapiens and then we look at the people let's say of Peru

the people of those areas where you are compared to these paracas skulls what is the difference there in the haplotypes well in general the haplo mitochondrial hap flu group or haplotype of peruvians is haplogroup B so that relates to movement via the Bering land bridge we also see traces of a c and d but in the case of the paracas out of the 22 skulls We

examined only two of them showed the mitochondrial haploid Group B none of a none of C none of d and the relationship then is of similar elongated skulls of a contemporary timeline found in Eurasia more specifically around Crimea and the Black Sea area I think again fascinating thank you uh well the reason I find that really fascinating too Brian is that we have some interesting connections

to those areas when we look at the Ural Mountains there is the daskus stone there are these incredible Stones these Mega uh these Megaton stones that we find that are visible up from space there that have 120 million year old fossilized seashells in them they found all kinds of strange things uh you know it's it's an area that's that's truly perplexing and has an ancient 3D

topographical map of the Earth again visible from space uh we have in the nearby areas all kinds of strange mythologies and one I want to ask you about when we look at the bulgarians for example wasn't it you that told me I think it was around the 16th century that royalty had to marry into females that had elongated skulls was that something that you were saying

before well I wouldn't say it was something that was prized because in that area according to that time frame there were people with elongated heads that lived in the area of Bulgaria and the women were prized by other uh noble families to marry into that group why you know that's probably lost in time but that definitely seems to have been chronicled that these were very prized

individuals for their specific bloodline I I could see that I mean there's certain groups in Europe when we look at the austro-hungarian empire for example we see the habsburgs they have very uh unique physical characteristics there are some families let's say when we go look at England without saying any names that are from let's say the area of Lincolnshire that when you look at them today

they appear to have this elongated headed uh cranial area and I think it's a it's a symbol of prestige and so uh it's it's very interesting that that Still Remains here today would you say that there still are populations uh in any you know concentrated amounts on the Earth right now that still have the elongated heads um not really I mean there were people living in

uh I think it's the Congo in Africa that up until the 1950s they were still doing head binding but I think missionaries in the government decided that that was not a good idea and prohibited them from doing that the Inca also had elongated heads and once the Spanish conquered Cusco they prohibited skull binding by them so the you know the portrayals we see of the Inca

made by European painters is not a depiction of what the Inca actually looked like the Inca also had reddish hair were taller than normal and also had lighter colored skin that's what differentiated them from the um you know from the normal inhabitants of the Cusco islands of Peru area that was shown by one of the members of Pizarro's actually one of Pizarro's Brothers noticed that when

he was in Cusco he he saw these people who look quite different and said who were they and he was told those of the last of the vericochens the old ones that's really fascinating I know even in British Columbia Canada where it's interesting that people might not know this I don't know if you want me to tell everyone this but that's good you you and I

both come from British Columbia uh originally now of course we don't live there any longer you live in perakas I live in Hungary but even in those areas in the guidahaya islands I believe it is and in these areas they found skulls that people can look it up online that have been artificially bound with the cranial defamation and there's so many people on the internet that

will be quick to dismiss the discoveries of let's say the paracas skulls or the authentic skulls out there and they'll say it's oh it's all artificial head bonding well why do people think that this practice started in the first place they were trying to imitate who they perceived as these holy people these gods or those with these incredible abilities obviously they saw them and they said

we want to be like them they were another class and and uh when we when we look at these depictions though of the artificially bound ones and you gave us a good breakdown at the beginning of the show when we see where the spine would come in and the size of the head uh is the is this is this clearly coming in to a different spot

though on the base of the head well very much so because it's called the foramen magnum that is where the vertebrae enter the bottom of your skull with us it's it's at the middle it's at the balance point but in the case again with this casting of an authentic paracas uh young person you can see that the foreman Magnum is very much at the back it's

about two and a half centimeters back to where ours is so that indicates that the whole balance of the skull was completely different than ours um also I think the diameter of the foramen magnum in the original practice is about half of what ours is so their necks were very thin probably very long and so that's what distinguishes the original Caracas from us and from the

people who had their head bound and of course as you said the whole idea of head binding was based on copying someone or that existed before in the case of the Caracas people it was the mixing with the later Nazca culture that Kai who were normal looking that caused the beginning of cranial deformation amongst the mix of Caracas and Nazca in order to maintain the look

of the original paracas people but over the course of time that all died out and eventually the Nazca simply looked like a normal Homo sapiens sapiens would look that's really incredible to think about in obrai I will say that you have far surpassed Thor higher at all and those who have gone into those parts looking at these Mysteries you've done so very respectfully I've been to

these parts with you when you've been into these areas of Peru and up into Bolivia tiwanaku and all these incredible parts and you know so far when we look at this subject some people like Dan Aykroyd have portrayed these elongated headed folks sort of in a cartoony fashion with the Coneheads movie we have all sorts of different uh ideas about them and what that represents but

moving forward I think that our future Generations will have you to thank for taking this so seriously and and bringing this up and these incredible subjects and you have also looked at this idea with these megalithic structures at the same time but also these cataclysms as you've put out there in your book Aftershock and you've been discussing for years what do you think are the greater

implications of of all this when you put it together when you've your work has looked at the cataclysms you've looked at megalithic structures you've shown that there's been Advanced Machining you've shown this group do you think that we will ever get a full picture of these prehistoric civilizations and who these people were in their Global role well I hope so I'm very grateful that there are

a number of um younger people who are making YouTube videos now um more or less looking at the same stuff that I've been looking at you know people like Ben of Uncharted X Jimmy a bright Insight Johanna James and others and so I'm very I'm very grateful that I've been able to influence them to some degree and uh I hope that they will they and others

will continue on with exploring and exposing the fact that our history is much more complex and longer than what we've been told that there were very Advanced civilizations with amazing technological capabilities that existed in the you know many thousands of years before the dynastic Egyptians or the Inca and so yeah I'm very hopeful that as time goes on that will have more and more of this

information reinforced by people other than myself Brian I love that so much and I want to thank you for coming on today and sharing with us about your latest findings when looking at these elongated skulls and I'm going to put links down below where people can find your books and they can check out your tours and they can go of course always to Hidden Inca Tours

and they can see what you got going on but they can also find you on shows like Ancient Aliens and guys deep space and you always have a million other great projects going on uh really quickly before you go is there anything that we can look forward to that you got coming up well we're going to Mexico in February with a quite a large group looking

at evidence of lost ancient high technology that some famous and some not so famous sites like kotwacon of course is very famous but there's another site called mitla in Oaxaca that shows clear evidence a very Advanced ancient technology then April we're going back to Egypt with quite a large group um then in June we have our uh Peru Bolivia tour which is more focused on the

Inca celebration of the Sun but of course we're going to be going to all the megalithic sites including going back into Bolivia to timonaco and Pumapunku and then November again we're going to have another uh Peru Bolivia tour I think that's going to be it for for next year I'm still waiting for um stability you know there's still all of this um minor chaos going on

around the world based on uh you know factors that we don't really want to discuss too much but um I'm waiting for more political and uh travel stability before I start to open up to other places like going back to Turkey and uh Lebanon and Jordan and places like that I think I think that 2023 is a great year for people to travel I I think

it might even be a better year than 2024-25 uh because we're going through all kinds of new adjustments in the world and there's new systems in place but this is a wonderful time for people to take one of these tours to get out there and to check it out I mean a lot of people want to get out and travel they've been stuck at the house

since 2020 so now is the time to do it Brian thank you again and I hope we can get you back in the future to discuss some of these other fascinating topics such as ancient cataclysms Advanced Machining and all these megalithic structures you've looked at all over the world and I want to thank all of you for watching do remember to like subscribe comment down below

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