Paco from Run with bitcoin on his 40 country jou

So I'm really interested to get you. Because I've seen you at a bunch of conferences. I think I saw you in our starved off. Yes. Good thing. But I've not had like time to learn about your journey. So tell the audience who you are, what you've been doing. Well, thank you so much, man. It's an honor to meet you and talk to you, man. It's an

honor to be here. I've heard a lot about you, man. I've heard a lot about you because I'm new to the Equus Space 2021 bit. I know. Is it really? Yeah. I saw you all. No. You wish to make quite an impact. I'm really new to the Equus Space and I'm here because of Rajshri was helping me a lot to reach here. My name is Pako.

I'm from India. And in August 2021, it was a full moon night. My friend gives me a call. He's like, Hey, Pako, do you want to travel the world? And I'm like, yeah, of course. He's like, but you have a travel on Bitcoin and I'm like, okay, but what is Bitcoin? He's like, here, I'm giving you this book. Read this and come to me. I'm like,

how will we get the money? He's like, it'll be crock fund. I'm like, okay. I start reading the book since I'm an Indian boy. Gold standard. We have gold. We worship gold in our house. We have generation gold. And we understand the. Yes. And we understand the importance of gold. I read the book and I'm like, like, you know, like the fire hydrant that opens into

your mouth and you're just like, you're like, whoa. And I went to Google. I figured out Felix Wies. There's a gas. I'm like, he's a friend of mine. I'm like, dude, I'm. Because I think this because this is why I wanted to talk to you because back when I first started when he get into Bitcoin, he was so inspirational. Because he's going on the journey around

the world. And he's like, he was doing it. He was funding it on Bitcoin. And then he was having to like pay for things in Bitcoin and on board people. And it was such an inspirational journey, which he was having at that time, I think, for Bitcoin. So it's really nice to see you picking up the mantle and doing the same thing. Yeah, man. And it's

so funny. He did 27 countries. And this is my 20. 27 country now. Wow. So I was just like, okay, I read the book and I went down and I went down the rabbit hole. Like everyone goes down. And I was like, let's just do. So Felix, we started watching wall. He was adding blogs. And I was looking at blogs. And then one day he writes

the final blog. He's like, this is too much work. I'm not going to write anymore. And I'm like, should now whom do I look up to? Then I found bit refill. Then I found Trabala.com. How about I? Okay. Let's start 21 days later. Started the journey called. Run with Bitcoin. The reason run with Bitcoin cause I love running. It's my meditation. It's my Zen mode. Like

people do yoga or some people writing some do coding, some do everything. And the journey started. I remember the first Bitcoin meter. I did in Bangalore, Bangalore in India. Somebody came and gave me $200 worth of Bitcoin. I had sold my furniture. I got some fiat. I sold it and I got Bitcoin for it. So I had like 200 plus 200, $400. I'm like, all right.

The journey starts. And this is all journey started. The purpose of the journey was simple. How do you know Bitcoin? Bitcoin is hard money by using it for day to day life as Felix was doing it around. And I started getting. I started buying milk for Bitcoin, Heikert for Bitcoin, coconut water for Bitcoin in India itself. In 16 different cities, I hosted 16 different Bitcoin meetups

just to share the importance of what is Bitcoin, what is hard money? Because I do not know blockchain. I'm not a techie. I do not know nothing about what you're creating on the other side. I'm like, what is hard money? And I was able to share that. And then there was a Bitcoiner who bought me a ticket. He's like, no, you're going abroad. Going to UA,

Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore. And majority of it was in Africa. It's 17 African countries. And I would just say last thing is we are very early. Very, very early. Very early, bro. Anybody who saw it's hyper Bitcoinization. It sounds good on Twitter. Because keyboard warriors. But you go down on the reality. You'll be just like, brown. Yes. Yes. But do you think the North Star stuff will

help that? Do you think the North Star things will help on both? Yes. The North Star will help in one important thing is because it is not centralized. And in that important thing, because as of now, I'll give you Africa 17 countries. Africa gives you free Facebook and free WhatsApp. If you have taken a SIM card here, they give you free Facebook and free WhatsApp. In

Facebook and WhatsApp feeds you, what content they want to feed you. When you have free Facebook and free WhatsApp, you will consume that only for free rather than buying a 2GB or a 4GB. So, the North Star coming into that way is a bet against all of this. But the centralized powers in play, when they're advertising and everything in play, it's a big challenge. Because people

have lack of information in this part of the world. If you look at my journey, it was Africa and Latin American prayer. They have lack of information. The information doesn't reach them. Let's say we are talking in English. By the time it is converted to Hausa, which is spoken in Nigeria. Emotions are gone. Everything is changed. The information has gone. The code has changed. By the

time it reaches, it just reaches that emotion anger. No. What's it called nowadays? This is called the white colonialism. The white, but not the white. The white technoconononism. The technology you're coming and giving me your coin called Bitcoin. And you want me to use your money now. And you're like, no, no. It's happening. This is something that I heard and I was like, so I hope

so. I thought about it for a while. But it's the lack of information. Isn't it? Which is out there for people in different, not English speaking. Because most of the Bitcoin information is English speaking information. I mean, a lot of it gets translated. Yeah. I like the analogy with gold as well. I'd never rethought that. But I did hear, isn't it most of the gold around

the necks of Indian mothers and grandmothers like most of them on the planet? That's true. We get a traditional wealth. Our, like it's a great grandparents had say, 10 grams of gold. They passed on to the grandparents 10 grams. The grandparents added another 5 grams. 15 grams passed it to my dad. 15 grams. My father will add another 5 grams. 20 grams. It's my duty to

pass it on and keep going on and pass it on. Because gold is considered auspicious. And it is considered very religious. It's the scarcest metal in earth. And it is always considered as a... Is it the scarcest to you which makes scarcest kind of religious? Exactly. Because it is so scarce like God. We don't see God but we believe in God. It's like Satoshi Nakamoto for

us. We don't see Him but He's there. With the 1 million coins, right? But we use it in all our temples. We use it in all our places. And gold is very auspicious. In the school, I remember 2003-2004. They're still teaching us. I guess till date, we are based on gold standard. Because I question my dad. I'm like, so we can print how much ever we

want. He's like, no. You keep gold as the central bank and the central bank prints money. I grow up 20 years later. I'm hit by inflation. I can't even afford a house in India. My father says that, go buy me a house in Mumbai. It's $100,000, bro. And then you signed up for a 25-year loan. And the 25-year loan by the time you pay. And you're

done paying... And once you're done paying, there's somebody knocking on your door called the doctor. And then the doctor starts taking his fees. Because you have lost your health in trying to make your wealth. And it's just like a cycle and we have just lost it all. Like, for me, I just felt like, how do I put this message out? So I go down around, find

the crypto people. I literally will find them and they come. Come. Because what happens is we start bullying. In the bullying process, they come these haunts in us. In the haunts in us, it gives out this energy. Which really makes it like us versus them. And in that entire process, I'm like, hey, it's no us versus them. These are the first people who will understand Bitcoin.

These are the first people who will understand. And these are the people. They will adopt Bitcoin. And this is what I understood. And this is why I go down to just share the importance of hard money. I really hope I can continue this and finish this to share this message. Yeah, it's beautifully. And it's interesting as well. Because clearly, there is some sort of spiritual aspect

of Bitcoin. People kind of almost treat it in the religious context. And they... There's a cultural phenomenon as an ideology. But then to actually the waving which you've explained it, it doesn't feel strange for it to be spoken about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is spoken about... It's purity, almost. I know as well, I can love that... To bet among types. They're heavily into the free and open source.

And some of them like Bitcoin as well. So it's very interesting. I know one monk. He's in India right now. He's a Bitcoin. And is that sort of for that reason? Yeah. Because of his purity. Yeah, it's a purity. He is a monk, man. And he had anger issues. But he has a Bitcoin in his teaching. His people out there. Wow. This has been an absolutely

inspirational conversation. Thank you so much, Baku. And it was great to hear about your story. Now I know. You know? Because I always want to have the conversation. Because you get to see new conferences. And that'll be busy. And I'll be trying to be like, this dude's doing something interesting. No, man, I really think the community came together to support me and to fund me. See,

I came in as a no. And I was on zero subscribers and zero followers. People did not know who I am. And people thought I'm a scammer because it was a bull run. I started at $60,000. And now it reached out to $16,000. So I opened blue. What I'm going to come down clean on everyone. I opened more than 500 blue wallets for people on Lightning.

And now I am considered a scammer too. How do I find those 500 people? And tell them that your Lightning node is gone. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. There's no difference between me and some other person right now. And I had that the day of Lightning wallet was going down. And I was in Bitcoin Beach, Brazil. And I was just like, shit. Because I'm here fighting to

send those 10,000, 10,000 sats. I was just a minimum, I could say, whole day, all the transactions are 10,000. And I'm like, dude, that poor guy who might give 200 rupees, that's a $3 or $5. $3, $5. What do I tell them? And like, he calls the blue wallet developers, stand up dude. And actually, out of all the wallets, the custodial wallets, just because he's such

a legit developer. And he's also, you know, he's a hacker like he's hard to do his shit. Out of all the custodial wallets, that wallet would have been one where the funds, the funds would be there, you know. See them on. And if they were to be there, they would have been there. Yeah, but if you, if and for Bitcoiners, like we're for a comfortable DM

in here, and then asking for a phone, some blah, blah, blah, pulling the phones out of the right time. Because we hear the news on Twitter, they're going to close down the, the, the, uh, LND, uh, LND hub in blue wallet. But then you're right for normal people who've been on board it onto that wallet. They're like, oh, this isn't work. You know what's next? Wallet

of Satsoshi? Yeah. Hey, dude. And then you have people fighting for custodial and non-custodial and then it just goes for a fight. And I'm like, wait a minute. We are unable to onboard the process is on boarding. See, Lightning made it. So easy. That's what Felix's journey was so inspirational to me because he did it on chain. Yeah. And I'm doing this on Lightning. Yeah. But

he did. I asked, I'm still asking like, do it. Homey Bitcoin. He's like, I'm not telling anyone. Homey Bitcoin. I spent. And I was like, okay, I terribly get it because the back then you don't even know what you. Yeah. And, and he's right now. He's still a part. He's a very integral part of the Bitcoin ecosystem. He is right now in Hong Kong as we

speak. And he, he attends all the conferences. I, and I would say, guys, anyway, you always be listening. I'm in this conference because I got a flight ticket to be here. It is not that I choose to come here. I get a flight ticket to come here. That's why I was able to be here. And El Salvador also a bit kind of bought me a ticket

to reach there. That's a lot of the thing as well. I saw so much like living on faith. It's cool. Man, I think so. This is why I, I always like bow down and I say till the day you feel good, you feel it's like you say spiritual. You feel it. You enjoy your work and the things flow, you know. Yeah, nourishes you spiritually. I think.

Yeah. Maybe that's my Bitcoin. What Bitcoin is feel? They feel like Yes. And then that then gets translated through the ideology and culture. Yes. But what's next? I have got. So the plan was to do 40 countries. So I'm, this is the 27th country. What 13 countries to go. So I'll be doing the lightning. It's called the lightning America, the Latin region. So I'll be in

this part of the world. Mexico, Guatemala, Hondarrn, Nicaragua. Yeah, we do not know what's happening in the Caribbean. So finish that part of the world. Wrap that out and by the end of the year, that's it. Pull out. Take a step back. Yeah, next year, that's the next year, starting Jan Feb, March. I would start approaching a Bitcoin company. Since now, I know Bitcoin communities in

40 countries that I have, yeah, personally, would have started like seven of them. And that's like a big win for me. And so I take that 40 communities and start connecting with people because I'm a people's person to just to see how I can integrate what I've learned. But join a Bitcoin company to put my energy rather than just site for shouting in front of camera

and moving like a nomad. I would like to put my energy towards one project and do that forward. So really thank you, man. Thank you so much, all right. Thank you so much, man. Thank you so much. Peace. It's a great job, man. For Bitcoin Beach Brazil.