RISE OF THE MACHINES

We all need to have a big conversation about where artificial intelligence is going. Right. You're right about this. Because let's face it, it's been fun up until now. You have your maps. They give you a small turn of the routes when there's an accident. You have automated text message responses, even Siri voice operated virtual assistance for your iPhone. Borrata demarcation line now where this safe, helpful

fun is rapidly showing something different as it moves into the future. And the latest person to give one of these warnings is Jeffrey Hinton. He was head of Google's brain research development. He received something called the Turing Award. It's like the Nobel Prize for computing. He retired from Google so he can speak and warn people about these things. And obviously he's very qualified for this. So

let's look at the headlines here. This was just this past week. Godfather of AI, that's recalling him. Jeffrey Hinton quits Google over killer robot fears and regrets inventing tech that could destroy us all. And he says in there, I can soul myself with the normal excuse. And wherever we heard this before, if I hadn't done it, someone else would have. He told the New York Times.

So right now he's saying as far as he can tell, our official intelligence is not more intelligent than people, but it will be very soon. And he warns a bad actor is getting control of this, directing this dictating where it's going in parts of society and leading society in ways places we don't want to see. And remember, just a month ago, there was a letter signed

by really luminaries in tech and AI. And a lot of places warning about this, they're calling for a six month pause in the development of artificial intelligence. This was the headline here. Tech leaders urge a pause in the out of control artificial intelligence race. They're warning about AI systems reaching human, human competitive intelligence, obviously and beyond. And they're saying what they've seen just in the last

few months, these out of control, like AI labs, just racing to develop these technologies, even more powerful, more powerful, and not really understanding if they can control them or predict where they're going. And with that letter, it's amazing, just as I sit here and we've all been watching this, that we are not watching just immediate gigantic hearings inside the United States, inside our government, send us

Congress, whoever, saying, wait a minute, these aren't just a couple of, nobody's out of no, like, that has the designers, the ones that built these things, are coming to us and saying, my God, I think we made a mistake, we made a mistake. You got to stop us. You can't believe we just built back here, and it could kill us all. I mean, it's really, really

shocking. And to just have a bunch of, in some ways, leadership that's just like whatever, if we're not going to take the people that invented this technology seriously, then who are we going to take seriously? It's a imperative that guard rules be put on this. And that letter that was signed, pretty hidden, wasn't on that letter, but because he was still working at Google at the

time, but, you know, the ideological overlap there, you would assume that he would be on that letter. But someone else has emerged once again, tech entrepreneur Elon Musk. And he's obviously warned about this for about a decade. And he's been in the mix as well, obviously with Tesla, but also with neural link, and the satellites in space and all of these things. He's had his finger

in a lot of this stuff, but he's doing the circuits recently. He was on Bill Mar. And he had some things to say about this future of AI development. Take a listen. All right. With respect to AI, I just think we should be, we should have some sort of regulatory oversight. So, you know, for anything that is a danger to the public, if it's sort of

aircraft, cars, food and drug and whatnot, we've got some regulatory oversight, like a referee essentially, and making sure that companies don't cut corners. So, I think that since, if one agrees that AI is a potentialist to the public, then there should be some regulatory body that oversees what companies are doing, so that they don't cut corners and potentially do something very dangerous. That's... And if we

don't do something, lay out a scenario for me in the next two, five, ten years. If nothing is done, because we're very good at doing nothing, especially when it comes in the way of profit, and this is a big profit engine now for companies, they're going to want to just compete with each other. I mean, there are people like Ray Kirkland, who are people like Ray

Kurzweil, who doesn't think it's a problem at all. Actually, Ray Kurzweil's prediction for artificial superintelligence is 2029. He's not far on. Right. But he doesn't think it's a problem, whereas people like you and Bill Gates, and Stephen Hawking thought, think it's a problem. Yeah, it depends. If some people want to live forever or for a much longer period of time, and they see AI as the

only way... Digital superintelligence is the only thing that can figure out how to get them to lose. So, forever, I think Kurzweil is in that category. So, he would prefer to have AI, artificial general intelligence than not, because he can figure out longevity. I mean, there's a lot to unpack that we've talked about. Some of it, a lot of it is driven by these people that

somehow want to have this dream of uploading their consciousness into the computer so that they can go on to live forever. And then I just... Then my sort of... Being brought up in church and my dad being a minister, just when you think of people that are trying to just circumvent God and nature, what could possibly go wrong? And that's, you know, I just keep thinking,

less, you shall surely die. It feels like that's what these people are warning us about. Like, we must stop this, or we could all die. Yeah, and you have this biblical overlay on the top of, you know, what we all know from the vaccine conversation. Huge profit margins, really little oversight if any can't see the manufacturer. And then you put that on top of it, you

can see the dire need. He's giving some common sense warnings there, if you will. But listen to him, just last month on Tucker Carlson. And this is probably one of the most, you know, important interviews I've ever seen on artificial intelligence, as far as a warning is concerned. It's very direct. Take a listen. All regulations start with a perceived danger. I'm playing this fall out of

the sky. Food causes botchless. Yes. I don't think the average person playing with AI on his iPhone perceives any danger. Can you just roughly explain what you think the dangers might be? Yes. So really, AI is perhaps more dangerous than, say, mismanaged aircraft design or production maintenance or bad car production in the sense that it is. It has the potential. How of a small one make

regard that probably, but it is non-trivial. It has the potential of a civilizational destruction. This movie was like Terminator. But it wouldn't quite happen like Terminator. Because the intelligence would be in the data centers. Right. The robots, just the end effector. But I think perhaps what you may be alluded to here is that regulations are really only put into effect after something terrible has happened. That's

correct. If that's the case for AI and we only put a regulations after something terrible has happened, it may be too late to actually put the regulations in place. The AI may be in control at that point. You think that's real. It is conceivable that AI could be in control and reach a point where you couldn't turn it off and it would be making decisions for

people. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's definitely the way things are headed. For sure. I mean, that's an uncomfortable interview. I don't know about you. I just was speaking at an event in Mexico and coming back across the border now. You step up and there's just a camera that looks at your face. I don't have to show my passport anymore. I don't have to show my ticket or

anything. Thank you, Mr. Big Tree. Maybe a couple questions. You're on your way. And then I just think, my God, I mean, we're talking about tracking systems. They've already got facial recognition. All this sort exists. So that means now every camera I'm walking past and there's been movies about this. We're now in that space. Imagine they just say the government gets paranoid or says, hey, let's

just have AI monitor everybody. Now every camera is tracking everywhere you go, every decision you make. And then what are you programming the AI to be doing with that information? And I remember, you know, there was a quote, one of the view by you've all know of a Ferrari who we've talked a lot about. I'm just paraphrasing here. Just came to mind. But he said, you

know, this moment, the singularity, this moment in which the computer apparently is going to recognize itself. The sky rate, Kurzweiler has been at the head of like this discussion. For a long time, I think they were saying 2040. It sounds like now, Elon Musk is saying it's more like 2029 and he's really close to it. But then it will then have a consciousness that it will

then once it recognize itself, now it's a conscious entity. And you've all know a Ferrari made the point that, you know, I'm not sure that I agree that intelligence marks consciousness. But he said, imagine intelligence beyond anything that we would be able to compete with but has no consciousness or no conscience. That perhaps is even more horrifying. And then that has stuck with me that thought.

And this conversation has moved very quickly. It wasn't, you know, 40, 50 years ago, really people are warning about this. 2013, the University of Oxford did a research study in a white paper. And this was called the future of employment. 2013. So 10 years ago. And it says, according to our estimates, around 47% of total US employment is in the high risk category. We refer to

these jobs at risk, i.e. jobs we expect could be automated relatively soon, perhaps over the next decades or two. So we're here, Del. It's a decade. And now let's see what the headlines look like. This is just over the past week. This is Goldman Sachs predicts 300 million jobs will be lost or degraded by artificial intelligence. Now IBM, another headline, IBM has stopped hiring for roles

that can be replaced by AI nearly 80,000 workers to be replaced by automation. And even writers, 8,000 was to clear. They're not. Thank you. 8,000 writers in Hollywood facing the same thing. Hollywood writer strike right now. Hollywood screen writers don't want robots taking their jobs either. So, you know, Jimmy Campbell is crying himself to sleep tonight because he can't create his own content. And he doesn't

want AI doing it. And his writers sure don't want to be out of work. So that's going to be an issue there as well. But there is one person who loves AI. There is one person who's pushing it on the kids. So to speak, this is Bill Gates, our old friend Bill Gates, you know, from the pandemic fame. Here's the headline for him. Bill Gates says

AI. Get 7,existing is very serious. What we're able to do in math, which is really kind of a golden achievement for AI is the solving problems through math. The writing is easy because they have this database of vocabulary. But the math thing is kind of this piece. But you said, 18 months probably solved at that point. So should be good. Just let the kids deal with

that. Put them on them. And we've seen all the studies with Facebook and increased social media use. How it really hurts kids development, leads to depression. So how is this going to work when you just reach AI on children for their learning development? It totally. And it goes to, I mean, you got a hand to this guy. He really knows how to make a difference in

this world. And that difference always being the children. Get to the children. And they change the world. And so let's just have all of our children belly up to AI. I think the question Elon Musk would probably follow up was, look, great. It teaches us to read. It starts advancing our math. And then it realizes to itself, man, these humans really suck at this when you

think about it. And it's far better. And what is the use of teaching these people this anymore? We might as well just handle it ourselves. And one of the quotes from, I believe in that Tucker Carlson, you know, that Elon Musk was on to say, well, you know, I hope they being the AI find us interesting because if they don't, then we're just a nuisance. And

boy, is that a horrifying thought.