Joe Rogan SLAMS Critics & Offers Debate | Pseudo-Intellectual with Lauren Chen | 6/19/23

so are you not like going to debate uh RFK on Joe Rogan's podcast oh come on that's harassing I'm just I'm just curious what I know nothing possible just curious I haven't said anything one way or the other I mean are you planning on doing it uh you know I just you just invited me so we'll see and I think you should though well we'll give

it some we'll give it some okay okay and what do you have to say to people who think they're a vaccine injured anything for them I mean do you think vaccine injuries are real Peter Peter it's just a question settle the Science Now guys let's talk about something somewhat controversial even by this show standards and even amongst the show's own viewers which is definitely saying something

but uh let's talk about the jab or should I say Jabs because I'm not just referring to the covid jab here and excuse me if I'm speaking in somewhat coded language but quite frankly I'm not even sure what YouTube does or does not allow on its platform in regard to this discussion and I'm definitely not trying to get anybody at the blaze in trouble here so

we're trying to play it safe but if you've been on social media you'll know that there's been a huge conversation slash debate that has kicked off in regard to vaccine safety and you see it all started when Joe Rogan had RFK Jr on his podcast the vaccine act gave immunity from liability to all vaccine companies if you for any injury for negligence oh this was a

huge gift for this industry because the biggest cost for every medical product is Downstream liabilities and all of a sudden those disappeared so they not only got rid of the downstream liability but they don't have any advertising or marketing costs because the federal government is ordering 76 million people essentially ordering 76 million kids to take the product a year I know if you're at all familiar

with RFK Jr you'll know that not only is he running for president but that he is also a very vocal critic of Jabs again not just the coveted one but in general and obviously that type of criticism that sort of opinion is not something that is really frankly tolerated in the mainstream anymore but much so that predictably rfk's appearance on Joe Rogan spawned several hit pieces

including this one from Vice by Anna Merlin this article is titled Spotify has stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's vaccine misinformation a broad swath of the anti-vaxine universe celebrated Thursday when Joe Rogan the biggest podcaster in the country hosted a three-hour conversation with Robert F Kennedy Jr the anti-vaxx luminary turned presidential a candidate the conversation was an orgy of unchecked jab misinformation some

conspiracy mongering about 5D technology and Wi-Fi and of course Rogan once again praising Ivermectin an ineffective faux cobit treatment as RFK began his campaign by downplaying his anti-jab activism the conversation represented a bit of a return to form but the episode also conclusively demonstrates that Spotify the platform that reportedly paid more than 200 million dollars to host Rogan's show has completely given up on addressing his

Relentless torrent of medical misinformation except in the most pallid and surface level ways now this hit piece basically represents the formula we've come to see from the mainstream life anytime someone says something you don't like you not only attack them but you also go after the platform that has hosted them in this case Spotify and their huge deal with Joe Rogan they're essentially trying to say

hey Spotify you're paying this person basically to kill small children with medical misinformation in the hopes that Spotify not wanting any negative press backlash pulls from their deal now that's not really anything new or unexpected in this day and age but where things get a little spicier was when Professor Peter Hotes posted this response to the article on Twitter he wrote sharing the article Spotify has

stopped even sort of trying to stem Joe Rogan's job misinformation it's really true just awful and from all the online attacks I'm receiving after this absurd podcast it's clear many actually believe this nonsense now if you're not familiar with Peter Hotes he actually is someone who himself was previously on Joe Rogan's podcast and not only that but he is also a public figure who is best

known for a very aggressively pushing not just Jabs in general but also the covidjab and just for further context so you can get an idea of who this Hotes person is he is someone who previously had called vax mandates a far-right conspiracy he also rejected the notion of schools lifting mask mandates and he wanted to buy to admin get this to arrest people who spread disinformation

this is months and months of anti-science anti-vaccine aggression coming from the far right elements of the Republican party they said this is nothing more than a effort for power and control and they're going to use first they're going to force vaccines on us and they're going to take away our Bibles and our guns and and all of that disinformation meaning deliberate misinformation came out of CPAC

the conservative news outlets if you start lifting Mass mandates now you're basically condemning all the kids to get infected with Omicron and and having to live with those consequences which in me that some kids will have to be hospitalized or possibly worse this is an anti-science Empire right now and we need Homeland Security we need justice department we've really got to figure this out in the

health in Health and Human Services will not be able to figure this out on their own and if that's not bad enough as Dr Simon godek or godek pointed out on social media Peter hotez is also someone who advocated in May 2021 for jabbing children to achieve herd immunity against covid his narrative was uncritically pushed by the mainstream media and of course now we know that

the kova jab did not actually stop transmission and was never tested for its ability to stop transmission and that mass face diapers if you will were basically a huge hoax the entire time that's not even to mention the side effects the kova jab has on especially younger people and the fact that covet in general is just not deadly for the most part to younger people suffice

it to say that Peter Hotes is someone who raised a lot of eyebrows when he came out slamming Joe Rogan for misinformation considering his very recent history of spreading just that misinformation but in any case since he and Joe Rogan clearly have at least some sort of relationship what with hote's previously being on Rogan's podcast Rogan actually responded to the doctor he said Peter if you

claim what RFK Jr is saying is misinformation I am offering you one hundred thousand dollars to the charity of your choice if you're willing to debate him on my show no time limit and I mean this is a pretty sweet offer from Rogan if you ask me not only does a hottest get a hundred thousand dollars donated to the charity of his choice but he also

gets to appear on the same platform that he has accused of spreading misinformation to dispel any misinformation I mean really what is the downside here and at least for his part RFK seems on board with the idea he said Peter let's finally have the respectful congenial informative debate that the American people deserve okay perfect right so we should be having a debate between these two individuals

we'll see which ideas are best which argument is the strongest so people can make up their minds right well of course not because you see after Rogan made this offer an RFK basically agreed to do it the good doctor Hotes that is put out this be serious Joe that's what you throw out for your Hunting Buddies on a weekend a 50 million dollar endowment which you

slash Spotify RFK could easily afford not for me but so we can continue making low-cost patent-free vaccines for the world's poor preceded by RFK Juniors public apology okay so asking for 50 million dollars uh in order to debate something that is definitely that is a look not one that I think is necessarily indicative of someone who wants to genuinely dispel misinformation rather than just demonize his

opponent but in any case Hotes very quickly deleted that tweet after posting it instead choosing to post the much more subdued Joe you have my cell my email I'm always willing to speak with you which I would say to his credit Rogen responded pretty bluntly that this is a non-answer I challenge you publicly because you publicly quote tweeted and agreed with that dog crab Vice article

if you're really serious about what you stand for you now have a massive opportunity for a debate that will reach the largest audience a discussion like this has ever had if you think someone else is better qualified suggest that person and Rogan also pointed out that uh by the way hotels I saw this tweet that you deleted and clearly all this back and forth between these

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isn't really something I've ever talked about but up until the covid jab I was someone who kind of just unquestionally got all my shots when it came up I mean I was never the type of person to be like oh this thing is due for a booster let me get it or let me get my flu shot but I just kind of assumed that yeah they're

safe they're good for you whatever the first time I really started questioning things however was during the pandemic I just didn't trust that a vaccine could be rolled out so quickly considering that the disease or illness was somewhat new and it just made me very skeptical and I was also very skeptical of a lot of the information that medical agencies were pushing out especially considering that

I was pregnant with my my daughter at the time that people were demanding I get the stuff injected into me even though no studies on pregnant women had been done so when it came to the covet jab I have always been very skeptical especially of the role that the medical industry has played you know financially just kind of also shaping government opinion so I've been a

pretty vocal critic of that jab but even when I would criticize it I would sometimes say something like hey I'm not anti-vaxxier because I I was still operating under the assumption that yeah anti-vax people are just crazy however and I'm still not going to assign any labels to myself but seeing the way the medical community and the mainstream media are reacting to someone like RFK talking

about vaccines in general and how similar it is to the psyop I know happened for the kovid job it is frankly just making me doubt things entirely and it's making me realize that perhaps I was too trusting of a group of an industry that I now know well actively lied to my face to protect their own interests their own agenda and their own profits now don't

make a mistake that's not me taking a stance on Jabs either way it's just me I think finally acknowledging that hey perhaps I don't have all the information to make an informed Choice like I previously thought I had so I am someone specifically who increasingly would love to see a debate between someone like Hotes and RFK because I think there's a lot I don't know about

the issue and I really would love to hear both sides kind of duke it out because obviously one side can make a response to another to another and it's really confusing if you're just the everyday person to know what information is best out there and ultimately we're all just trying to do what's best for our families and it's hard when you're dealing with a subject matter

that I at least have no expertise in but what's really really scary to me is the unwillingness the medical establishment Community has had to engage at all and what I mean is stuff like this from Tom Nichols who said no medical professional should ever agree to do this referencing a debate with RFK never it elevates the conspiracy guy demeans the medical professional and will only convince

the Kooks out there that RFK is right because a real doctor took the time to debate him never debate a conspiracy theorist maybe it's just me and maybe I'm a little more cynical after everything happened with the pandemic but that that type of attitude that's a red flag for me one that Joe Rogan I think also rightfully called out saying that would be a great suggestion

if you could assure that the industry you are representing wasn't completely captured by heartless monsters who have a history of some of the biggest criminal finds in human history because their deception has cost hundreds of thousands of people their lives it would be a great suggestion if the industry you were defending didn't occasionally look at human beings as an opportunity to generate insane wealth regardless of

the tragic consequences but you can't do that so maybe it would be a good idea to have an effing debate I mean if these guys are so sure of their stanzas I really don't see what the harm in just talking things out I mean surely if RFK is just some crazy conspiracy theorist it should take like 20 minutes to debunk everything he has to say right

but as as even Elon Musk weighed in like I said this whole debate on social media really exploded key referring to Hotes is afraid of public debate because he knows he's wrong and of course Hotes defaulted to basically fear-mongering saying seriously Elon this is monstrous 200 000 Americans needlessly perished including 40 000 Texans because they were victims of anti-gab misinformation during our awful coveted waves in

2021-2022 please don't do this to which Elon had I think a very reasonable response first of all I am generally Pro jab I have been jabbed against pretty much everything as of my kids second I think there is tremendous promise in synthetic mRNA that said the world obviously went crazy with excess jab against covet 19. I had that in quotes because the RNA sequences changed so

much that I called it the virus of Theseus so many people I know had serious side effects from the jab including myself failure to acknowledge that is a lie as for the death you claim are due to covid-19 why is the nation of Sweden still alive just go on Rogan and do the debate and despite elon's words of encouragement it seems that Hotes is still not

willing to Simply debate RFK Jr someone who supposedly I would think would be so easy to win against now what's kind of interesting is that other people have now chimed in including public figures offering more money for hotels to just put his money where his mouth is and debate RFK Jr Andrew Tate offering another 500 000 Tim Cass offering another hundred thousand and many others to

the point where the RFK debate pod is now over 1.5 million dollars and yet still Hotes is refusing to debate by the reticence you may be wondering well as once more Dr Simon gotick pointed out it appears that Hotes has received funds from the Gates Foundation hundreds of thousands of dollars from The Gates Foundation which we all know is very I would say violently almost pro-vaccine

so perhaps at the end of the day this isn't actually about uh platforming a conspiracy theorist or not wanting to engage with crazy people or even defending science it's simply about doing what is best for hotels's pocketbook allegedly I'll say I don't want to get sued by anyone but I would love to know what your thoughts about this are has the pandemic kind of change the

way you view the medical industry like it definitely has for me do you think Hotes is right to turn down the RFK debate or would you be interested in actually seeing both sides present their best arguments let me know down below as always if you enjoyed this video please be sure to like share and subscribe until next